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Wouldn't know. I'm sitting securely on my university's broadband connection.

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Inflate your Upload Space

And I'm on a broadband which never gives me trouble.

Maybe my PATRIOT Filter is blocking it.

Let me see if that website is on Norton FreedomWorks' blocked list.

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Maybe you forgot to hit the start button.

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No, I think the connection just got interrupted, since after opening it again it loaded quickly.

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Which is why something screwed up.

Regardless, this piece of propaganda is a blatant piece of fiction.

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Impressive Do the numbers add up? Is there a cap on social security above $90,000. If so, I'm guessing removing it would go a large part to solving the crisis.

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Impressive Do the numbers add up? Is there a cap on social security above $90,000.


Yes.

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Impressive Do the numbers add up? Is there a cap on social security above $90,000. If so, I'm guessing removing it would go a large part to solving the crisis.


It would -- but the argument is that SS is supposed to be that you pay for a certain level of benefit. If a CEO pays 5000 for a given benefit level, thats totally fair since everyone else pays the same 5000 for the exact same benefit level. We don't expect a CEO to pay 10 times as much for his big mac do we??

Its the same with unemployment insurance premiums here . . . the premiums are only taken on the first 40K of income. . . Why?? Because if a 90K a year person loses their job, they get the exact same benefits as the person in the 45K a year position. In theory its insurance .. .

The excess income a person earns as compared to another person gets dealt with by the income taxation system which is already somewhat progressive.(I know there are loopholes and sometimes I wonder if flatter taxes with less loopholes would be a way to get the really rich paying fairly but in general I have no problem with progressive taxation). Put more bluntly,if you want the rich to pay more, do it directly by raising their tax rates . . . Don't go hiding it by charging people premiums for benefits you will not give. If you drop the cap on premiums, you should drop it on benefits as well

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