12-05-2005 02:10									#1
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We have thread limits of 500 posts and stuff of that nature. However, these limits were decided upon at least 2 years ago with the software/hardware in use at that time. With all the upgrades, perhaps we should revise these limits based upon the new capabilities of the software/hardware.

	12-05-2005 02:55									#2
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This one isn't going to reach any limit, soft or hard, that's for sure.

	12-05-2005 05:40									#3
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The limits are there to keep thread-loading times at a minimum. To prove this for yourself, here is a simple test. Open up the pictures thread in one window (3920 posts as at the moment) and another thread in another window. Observe which one starts loading first. Observe which one finishes loading first.

	12-05-2005 05:50									#4
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i'm sure you are right, but the picture thread also has a lot of.... pictures

	12-05-2005 06:25									#5
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True, but the last page currently has only 6 pictures, 3 of which are almost avatar-sized. If you compare the speed to another thread with a comparable number of pictures - the Galactic Overlord thread for instance - I'm sure you will still see the difference having less than 500 posts makes.

	12-05-2005 06:43									#6
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It's not the user end part of things, but the outdated coding of vB 2.0.3. It's not optimised for newer serverside software. Unless it's then some issue, but that's my guess, based on how newer versions of vB don't require something like that or haven't seen anyone else doing that, except Poly.

	12-05-2005 08:46									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns True, but the last page currently has only 6 pictures, 3 of which are almost avatar-sized. If you compare the speed to another thread with a comparable number of pictures - the Galactic Overlord thread for instance - I'm sure you will still see the difference having less than 500 posts makes.

I'm too lazy.

just post how many milliseconds difference it is. Or are you saying the difference can be measured in seconds?

	12-05-2005 11:08									#8
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the 500 limit has nothing to do with vbulletin
it was established in the ubb days when threads were stored in text files

the 500 limit is now a loading and management issue....

	14-05-2005 02:43									#9
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Loading of this thread: 3.234 seconds

Loading of pic thread (last page) 10.105 seconds

But you donīt load the entire thread do you? You only load one page at a time, right? Or is it something going on that we mere mortals canīt see?

	14-05-2005 10:03									#10
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i'm refering to mod-related actions....

	14-05-2005 12:35									#11
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500 is a good number for other reasons. A thread that goes that long without being closed by a mod brings glory on its creator as people felt it was obviously worth discussing.

	14-05-2005 13:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG i'm refering to mod-related actions....

Right. I thought it mightīve been something like that...

	14-05-2005 14:29									#13
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By the time threads get to 500 they often bear no relation to the first post anyway.

	14-05-2005 15:27									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon 500 is a good number for other reasons. A thread that goes that long without being closed by a mod brings glory on its creator as people felt it was obviously worth discussing.

Wouldn't a thread spawning new generations of threads bring more glory though? Hangman is now in its 19th generation for instance.

	14-05-2005 15:35									#15
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Almost 10,000 posts.

	14-05-2005 16:29									#16
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike By the time threads get to 500 they often bear no relation to the first post anyway.

In some cases this achieved within the first ten posts...

	14-05-2005 21:16									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Wouldn't a thread spawning new generations of threads bring more glory though? Hangman is now in its 19th generation for instance.

FG spam threads don't really count.

I like the 500 limit as I like to read the whole thread before deciding if my worthless opinion should be added.

	14-05-2005 21:40									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Qilue FG spam threads don't really count.

I agree. But competitive Hangman threads do not fit into that category, obviously.

	15-05-2005 09:13									#19
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FG and spam don't fit in the same sentence.

	16-05-2005 20:00									#20
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Yes, very redundantly superfluous... ;-)

	16-05-2005 21:15									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon 500 is a good number for other reasons. A thread that goes that long without being closed by a mod brings glory on its creator as people felt it was obviously worth discussing.

...

You're joking, right?

Ever noticed the cap/com threads?

	17-05-2005 00:45									#22
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That's a fair comment.

I wasn't counting the threads where two posters spend 500 posts talking past each other.

On the other hand, the "Hot or not" threads were pretty good unless you're a gay.

	17-05-2005 02:00									#23
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Most threads that get to 500 (or more) seem to be like the cap/com threads or spam (suomithreads and the Cafe). I'll give you the Hot or Not threads, but then remember the whole Schiavo thing.

	17-05-2005 02:23									#24
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500 post threads in on topic forums are usually pretty good, except for the FG spam threads

	17-05-2005 02:49									#25
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The problem is those other games threads that clutter up the FG forum.

	17-05-2005 05:50									#26
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QFT

	17-05-2005 20:54									#27
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You forgot to quote me.

	17-05-2005 21:04									#28
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike The problem is those other games threads that clutter up the FG forum.

we've had very few that hit 500 posts, other than ones on DnD based RPGs, and even those dont go to 500 very fast since a certain person hit deity

	17-05-2005 22:39									#29
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It is certainly true that Skanky has less time for posting these days.

	18-05-2005 04:28									#30
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Forum games have almost always been bigger than threads about other games. GO for instance has increased at a massive rate.
Was Ras actually that active in other-games threads though?