12-05-2005 03:46									#1
	So Long, and Thanks for all the Burgers Got spare money?

I can now officially say: it's over. Our father (mine & che's) will be selling off his Burger King stores. Corporate has decided that the ADI-midwest region will be a corporate one and he sold them to corporate. Chances are I will be unemployed at the end of the month. My assistants told me today that they don't want me to go (one said she'd get everyone to go 'on strike' if I left ), but I don't see corp BK wanting to keep around the franchise owner's son. I can't say I'll miss the stress, the thieves, and the whining & complaining but I will miss working with some of those characters and some of our regular customers.

Maybe I'll get decent unemployment.

That is all.

	12-05-2005 03:49									#2
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You'll get roughly 2/3rds your former paycheck or $275 (give or take) a week, whichever's less.

BTW, if you move out of state, they can't make you go to any appointments *hint* *hint.*

I want some Whoppers.

	12-05-2005 03:54									#3
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quote: but I don't see corp BK wanting to keep around the franchise owner's son.

Why not? I'm not too sure what you did, but you have experience, contacts, and a certain familial investment in the stores (even if BK bought you out.)

	12-05-2005 03:55									#4
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BTW, how much did your pop realize?

Is he going to stay in the industry, or is he going to retire?

Don't forget - he can donate $11,000 to each of his children yearly and deduct that from his income come tax time.

	12-05-2005 03:57									#5
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All of his children are grown.

	12-05-2005 03:58									#6
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Why not? I'm not too sure what you did, but you have experience, contacts, and a certain familial investment in the stores (even if BK bought you out.)

Let's just say pop didn't hold his tongue about various BK practices in the past and made a few enemies.

	12-05-2005 03:59									#7
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Good luck in finding new employment Theben!

	12-05-2005 04:00									#8
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT BTW, how much did your pop realize?

Not as much as he put back into the business. BK Corp know they have him over the barrel, since he's in bankruptcy. He'll pay off his debts, but he's plowed his salary back into the business for about a decade. I don't think he's recouping his loans to his company, let alone any capital gains. He'll have something to live comfortbly on for a while, but retirement is out.

	12-05-2005 04:01									#9
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Couldn't BK employ you in another store? Hadn't you proved your worth as maanger?

	12-05-2005 04:15									#10
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara All of his children are grown.

Which has nothing to do with it.

	12-05-2005 04:59									#11
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quote: Corporate has decided that the ADI-midwest region will be a corporate one

How does this kind of thing get decided?

If they've got money to buy out a whole region, why isn't there a store in Camden?

	12-05-2005 05:23									#12
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Or how about in near-north Chicago? Admittedly it's mostly a McD's town, but I work on the mag mile, and there's not a BK anywhere nearby that I know of. Closest one to 60611 zip code is south of the river and a bit west ...

If it's anything like McD's btw, they are choosing to focus on that region because they think it's an important one to the company's image, and corporate tends to feel they can do a better job maintaining image than franchises do (sometimes true, sometimes not).

	12-05-2005 05:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell How does this kind of thing get decided? If they've got money to buy out a whole region, why isn't there a store in Camden?

Because it's a shithole in the middle of Arkansas?

	12-05-2005 06:54									#14
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quote: Because it's a shithole in the middle of Arkansas?

You don't have to be arrogant just because you have a Burger King right off your driveway and a McDonald's next to the kitchen.

13,000 people in the immediate area and a county population of 30,000 can easily support a Burger King. We used to. And to be honest, the service on every visit was awful. But we still went. And it's not like they've even changed the Burger King since it closed! I think the playplace is still up even. It's just sitting around.

The new KFC is just down the road and it is booming. Ouachita County gained 600 jobs last year. We're a growing place! Come open a restaurant!

	12-05-2005 07:02									#15
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell You don't have to be arrogant just because you have a Burger King right off your driveway and a McDonald's next to the kitchen.

omfg kucipwnage !!!!

	12-05-2005 07:12									#16
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If your father isn't going to realize big gains from selling his business then why not take the money and start up a new place? Instead of a fraqnchise create your own brand which is "fresh fast" instead of run of the mill fast food. That seems to be direction the industry is going any way so you'd be on the growth side of things and still using the experience you two have gained over the years.

	12-05-2005 07:17									#17
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quote: Instead of a fraqnchise create your own brand which is "fresh fast"

To be honest I'm sick of "fresh fast" and I will fight anyone to the end of the Earth if they try to make it more than a fad.

	12-05-2005 07:43									#18
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Theben-

Good luck finding a new job, never a fun task.

I'm sure I've been to your fathers restaurants here in Indy, one BK is right near me at 38th and 465 (West).

	12-05-2005 09:04									#19
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I suggest you begin your work search in Manila...

	12-05-2005 09:48									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer I suggest you begin your work search in Manila...

Sure, he could buy his own monkey meat cart.

Well, get married and have his wife buy one.

ACK!

	12-05-2005 09:59									#21
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell To be honest I'm sick of "fresh fast" and I will fight anyone to the end of the Earth if they try to make it more than a fad.

Yesterday: Berkeley
Today: California
Tomorrow: Teh world!

	12-05-2005 10:09									#22
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burger flipper

	12-05-2005 10:25									#23
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If I was opening a fast food type restaurant (or "fresh fast" as they're calling the healthy yet still fast type restaurants) then I'd go for something like Rubio's which bills itself as "The home of the fish taco". It's different enough from the crappy Taco Bell or Taco Time type places as well as the traditional tacerias that you can effectively compete without going head to head even if you're just a small restaurant or chain. For a bit more gringo-ified food (which might sell better in the boring mid-west) take a look at Fins. Personally I find Fins' salsas to be bland and I don't like the heavy cream sauces they use but then again I tend to prefer the traditional hot baja style food.

If a beach themed restaurant isn't your cup of tea then you could go for the traditional taceria style restaurant but this will have less style and thus less marketing potential. If you're looking for something you might franchise out in the future (and that's where the money is) then you want a strong theme that will guide your marketing and help people remember your restaurant. In Chicago I doubt you'd have many direct competitors to this style so you could find yourself plowing virgin territory.

	12-05-2005 10:32									#24
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Best of luck, Theben. When one door closes, another opens. It's just a matter of finding the damn thing.

Gatekeeper

	12-05-2005 10:59									#25
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Alternatively you could marry a Vietnamese lady and open up a Pho restaurant. I know that Vietnamese banh mi sandwiches have become my healthy fast food of choice.

	12-05-2005 11:01									#26
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yeah fish tacos and vietnamese food go over realy well in the midwest.

Not everyone is as enlightened as on the west coast.

	12-05-2005 11:08									#27
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I'm trying to think of unexploited niches where they could plant a claim. If I can find a decent Thai restaurant in Fayetville, NC then I'm sure people in Illinios would be willing to try something new if it was properly presented and marketed. Or at least I hope.

	12-05-2005 11:09									#28
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Anything's possible -- I'm in western Illinois and I have fallen in love with sushi a few years ago.

	12-05-2005 11:40									#29
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Sushi
Japanese all you can eat sushi places
Korean style sushi, just raw fish none of taht annoying rice getting in the way and hot sauce mixed with wasabi to dip it in, and a ****-load of great side dishes, everything from snails to grilled eel

	12-05-2005 13:29									#30
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Raw fish without rice isn't sushi. It's sashimi and widely available in Japan.