14-05-2005 05:00									#1
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F-P posted this at the UN:

quote: Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:07 am The way to the finals Well, since no one else is starting this up, I'll give it a go. It seems to me that we need to take care of the following steps before we can proceed with the finals game: - Admin Participation/Confirmation (Elucidius? Are you still running this show? Could Micaelis join you perhaps? PAL trusts him to be unbiased. ) - Map Creation (are we using the same criterion as last time? Hopefully yes, to save us some discussion time) - Rule Amendment - Team Confirmation and Roster Update - Team Civ Selection - Team Play Order - Begin Play It seems to me that an excellent target date for this exercise would be July 1? Let's get going!

I posted this reply:

quote: Hmmm, with a possible start date of July 1, maybe we can possibley set up a "Marathon" session on the July 4th weekend (ugh, 4 July is a saturday, no 3 day US weekend....) to burn up a few turns. We could run a "chat" of the main players to pass the save on and quickly notify the next inline. This way, we would have had atleast 1 turn for discussion/planning before the weekend.

As of this post, no other responses

Let's get ORGANIZED!!!! hehe

E_T

	14-05-2005 23:52									#2
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Actually, July 4th is a Monday.

	15-05-2005 20:12									#3
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1) A lot of people do things on July 4

2) A lot of people do not celebrate that day.
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3) I don't think having a "marathon" session in a DG is a good idea. These things take time.

	16-05-2005 00:17									#4
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I agree with MZ that a marathon session right at the start is not a good idea. The first turn (or first several turns if you move your settler) is a major decision point and should not be rushed.

	16-05-2005 21:20									#5
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btw, can anyone post a link to the UN? Thanks

	16-05-2005 22:26									#6
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it's in the info thread

	16-05-2005 23:59									#7
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With July the 4th being on a Monday, there are bound to be a lot of people in the US out of town on a vacation all weekend.

Marathons shouldn't be planned on at all.

Actually there is some founding city discussion that can be taken prior to geting the save, especally if admins give us a screen shot of what we'd see on the first turn in advance.

My rule of thumb is that shifting one tile to either get fresh water access or get off a grassland/shield [or a tile with a food or shield resource] is generally worth it, and sometimes shifting one tile off forest is worth it as well. But to be worth a two tile shift, there needs a be a majority superiority of that tile.

	17-05-2005 20:37									#8
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not everyone in the team is american
but I still find the idea for marathon not quite good mainly for the reasons stated by Kloreep

	29-05-2005 11:13									#9
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are all turns done in session?

	29-05-2005 12:56									#10
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At least in the PTW ISDG they were.

	29-05-2005 23:12									#11
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quote: Originally posted by planet are all turns done in session?

It depends on who the Consuls are and what is going on in the game ATM. I'm that sure that in the begining of the finals here we will see turns being done in chat quite often and at regular time slots.

	29-05-2005 23:39									#12
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Usually I have entered the chat but with one exception I was always alone in the IRC channel

The other option is to have orders from the ministers (which doesn't mean we should not play in live chat sessions) but this was almost abandoned as practice too.

So, generally, we play using orders from the ministers which may be posted while we wait for the save to arrive. Once it arrived we go in a private channel on apolyton.net ad we play the turn while discussing moves.

	31-05-2005 04:26									#13
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Is Poly IRC functional yet? We may want to consider using CivIRC or another server. (If we go for CivIRC, I believe we, as an ISDG team, must request a channel rather than starting it on our own. Not sure why.)

	31-05-2005 12:39									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep Is Poly IRC functional yet? We may want to consider using CivIRC or another server. (If we go for CivIRC, I believe we, as an ISDG team, must request a channel rather than starting it on our own. Not sure why.)

Heck, I have no idea Klo! Anyone?

	31-05-2005 12:47									#15
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Doesn't work for me...

	31-05-2005 12:51									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Doesn't work for me...

Maybe we lost the registration on the channel is all. We'll have to see what ormuzd was using to know for sure.

	31-05-2005 12:57									#17
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nope, can't connect to the server, period.

	31-05-2005 13:03									#18
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The appropriate links for both Java chat and IRC are still up, but the Java based chat is not running. Maybe it's all down just right now. At least we can hope. Maybe I will send a PM to MarkG or Ming to find out what's happeneing with it. It was so very nice to be able to use IRC.

	31-05-2005 16:21									#19
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I did not enter IRC since the end of the game. Before this I had no problem with apolyton.net IRC

I'll check once I get home

	31-05-2005 22:23									#20
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I can't connect either. Looks like poly IRC is totalled still.

Here's the relevant section from CivIRC's Terms of Service:

quote: VI. Special needs channels Special needs channels for the Intersite Democracy Game can only be found with the permission of the Network staff. Internal game team communications and special needs channels on the CivIRC network are only granted to accredited ISDG game teams. Officially accredited ISDG game teams are at the moment Civilization Gaming Network and Civ3 Brasil. Non accredited ISDG game teams or members of those teams, are not allowed to use the CivIRC network for their internal game communications or to found new ISDG related channels. Any game team or member of those teams, found violating this explicit rule, will be immidiately denied access to the CivIRC network and reported to the appropriate ISDG representatives.

I went to the helpdesk channel on their server to find out what becoming "accredited" entails.

quote: ChanServ #helpdesk Welcome to CivIRC Helpdesk! Please wait a moment for someone to respond. In case nobody is available, we recommend sending e-mail to helpdesk@civirc.com. Thanks for your patience! Kloreep Hi Rasbelin Hi! Rasbelin How may I help? Kloreep I'm wondering how ISDG teams become "accredited" Kloreep Poly IRC is still not up, so it looks like we need to find a new server for the final C3C ISDG found Kloreep If we'd like to locate here, what would we have to do? Rasbelin It's a simple process. It's just limited to make sure not unwanted people do it. Rasbelin The Poly ISDG team I guess? Kloreep Yep Rasbelin Okay. Rasbelin Just join the channel with the name wanted and then register it. Rasbelin Then you need to limit access to it and make it invisible. Kloreep Okay, so basically you just need to know it's a legit team channel? Rasbelin Exactly and that I know it's protected. Kloreep Cool. Mind if I post this conversation to our forum? Rasbelin No problem. Rasbelin I recommend naming it #apolytonisdg. Rasbelin Or something along the lines. Rasbelin If you need help with the channel configuration, just let me know. Kloreep Thanks. Kloreep I don't plan on registering it just yet, but I imagine I or someone will be later

So, unless there's somehow a better option, I suggest we set up a channel.

Edit, some info.

quote: Rasbelin You need the following settings. Use mode lock to set permanently channel mode +nsV and for ChanServ settings, set topic retention, secure ops and... and... lemme see. Rasbelin Oh, and then you need to decide how to limit access to only those wanted. Rasbelin Perhaps a channel password? Rasbelin Or then you can use access lists. Then all users must be registered. Kloreep Channel passwords work properly here, then? (On poly IRC they never did... you could access an empty channel without the password, and then you'd see it being set) Kloreep If passwords work properly, I imagine that would be the easier option Rasbelin I wouldn't have mentioned it, if they don't. Sure do. Kloreep Okay. Rasbelin Yes, it's easier, but the most secure one is only allowing the ones chosen. However I assume you can keep the password secret just fine Rasbelin So mode lock should be: +nsVk passwordhere (like +nsVk mzo-r0xx0rz) Rasbelin That means you have to use /join #channel password to join. Kloreep Okay, thanks.

	31-05-2005 22:52									#21
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Poly IRC doesn't work for me either

	01-06-2005 07:53									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Micaelis Rex OK, everyone's had enough time to find these forums. The next step before we can start the game is vote for map preferences. There is a special forum set up for map generation discussion here, and when your team has finished polling on the map characteristics you would like, the captain should post the official vote in the proper thread in that forum. The deadline for voting is Saturday, June 11, 2005. At the same time, we need to get the rule set nailed down. Your team should already have been discussing changes you want to make to the rules for a couple weeks now. If a team has an amendment they wish to propose, the team captain must create a thread detailing the proposal. All amendments MUST be submitted to the UN by Saturday, June 11, 2005. As far as deadlines go, they exist for one purpose and one purpose alone, to get the game started on time. It is hard enough to coordinate six large civilization sites as it is, so I would appreciate it if you do your best to keep the deadlines. I know you all want to get this game started, and it isn't that far away. Now is the time to dig in. A copy of this message will be PM'd to the team captains, as it is quite important (except for CDZ, who has yet to name a team captain).

	07-06-2005 13:43									#23
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When do we start now?

	09-06-2005 09:41									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Sons of Stone When do we start now?

Official start date is July 1, 2005.

	09-06-2005 14:30									#25
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that is great news indeed

* Paddy the Scot head off to the pub for several brews

	09-06-2005 20:44									#26
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I saw a post by emperor that he has no civ3 and won't even be able to start making the map until June 28th. That's a pretty short time to make a map of this magnitude and have admins review it.

	09-06-2005 22:03									#27
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yet he does have time for spamming the UN forum.

	09-06-2005 22:47									#28
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then who set the time deadlines?

	10-06-2005 01:57									#29
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Someone get this man a C3C editor!

Starting on June 28th definitely isn't enough time to get things going on July 1st.

Edit: Ah, he doesn't even have his own computer. Looks like we're going to have to move it forward in to July unless he really can get it done in a hurry.

Last edited by Kloreep on 10-06-2005 at 02:02