14-05-2005 16:01									#31
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Yes, if you actually carry out the intercourse

	14-05-2005 16:03									#32
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I just said she was drunk.

	14-05-2005 16:07									#33
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If you chickened out and did not commit the evil deed, I don't think you can be prosecuted on intent alone

	14-05-2005 16:12									#34
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Smart ass.

	14-05-2005 16:34									#35
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

What if you're both drunk and stoned?

	14-05-2005 16:34									#36
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Irrelevant.

	14-05-2005 16:37									#37
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How so?

	14-05-2005 16:42									#38
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Because "I was drunk" is never a defense.

	14-05-2005 16:46									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Ned This is a hypthetical. A man assaults a woman, but she does not die immediately. Sometime later, she does die of injuries she sustained in the assault. Is the man guilty of murder or at least of manslaughter?

If it's hypothetical, why is someone specifically mentioned in the poll?

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

It's yes, if she says you raped her, but you still didn't.

	14-05-2005 17:00									#41
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quote: Because "I was drunk" is never a defense.

How is it a rape if you both got very drunk and/or stoned, and one thing let to the other? If one "gets a person drunk" then, yes, but if a boy and a girl are drinking together, after the Nth beer all sorts of **** can happen.

	14-05-2005 17:18									#42
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Reread the question and stop arguing irrelevancies. Intent is the key word here, Az.

	14-05-2005 17:21									#43
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

No. If the girl gets drunk and does something she regrets, it's her own fault. "I was drunk" is not an excuse.

	14-05-2005 17:21									#44
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I'd like you to see how you prove this.

	14-05-2005 18:22									#45
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has Ned bashed a woman?

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

I suppose she still drinks out of her own free will, knowingly it contains alcohol and we can assume she knows the common results of drinking like a lower inhibition. Assuming she isn't forced in any other way, I woundn't call it rape by far.

	14-05-2005 19:00									#47
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

	14-05-2005 19:03									#48
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KH votes no

	14-05-2005 19:28									#49
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Because "I was drunk" is never a defense.

Same can be said for the girl then. Unless you spiked her alcohol-free beverages without her knowing.

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My point exactly.

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	14-05-2005 19:41									#51
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In Canada the law says that the delay to be considered murder is 4 years.

There was a case of a Black beaten by the police, who died of his injuries four years and a half later.

	14-05-2005 19:41									#52
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JohnT

	14-05-2005 22:22									#53
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Here's another one, likely more inflammatory: If you get a girl drunk with the intent of having sex with her, is it rape? I vote: yes.

It depends on how drunk and whether or not she's willing.

	14-05-2005 23:15									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui California is ALSO a common law state. It just also has a good number of statutes.

Not true. We have community property and the legislature enacts all Supreme Court decisions into statutes. That said, most judges still follow precedent, just as they should.

	14-05-2005 23:18									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar If it's hypothetical, why is someone specifically mentioned in the poll?

Because there is a specific case involved, Furman is investigating, but we don't know what he is going to say. Still, it is likely that he will conclude that Michael Schiavo beat his wife up, leading to her brain damage and her eventuall death when life support was withdrawn.

	14-05-2005 23:19									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse has Ned bashed a woman?

Not yet. This is about Terri Schiavo.

	14-05-2005 23:21									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris In Canada the law says that the delay to be considered murder is 4 years. There was a case of a Black beaten by the police, who died of his injuries four years and a half later.

No, this is curious. Could Michael Schiavo waited until the SOL on murder had expired before he filed his petition to have Terri's tube pulled?

	14-05-2005 23:22									#58
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It depends on how drunk and whether or not she's willing.

Just saw a movie last night where the drunk girl is all over the guy, etc., but then she passes out. He does it. I would say it was not rape.

	14-05-2005 23:39									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ned No, this is curious. Could Michael Schiavo waited until the SOL on murder had expired before he filed his petition to have Terri's tube pulled?

murder doesn't have a statute of limitations Ned.

The lessers may or may not in florida, I'm not sure.

	14-05-2005 23:40									#60
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