16-05-2005 00:48									#1
	VIcky to EU II Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Think it can be done?

Over in the Vicky forums, this generally gets a terse "No," but I think it can be done, though there are aspects that don't translate.

What would need to be changed to make it work?

Railroads could be turns into roads, but without the ability to build new ones or improve old ones.

Factories and such should be fine.

Crime is okay.

Socialism and Communism is definately a problem.

No missionaries.

Colonization is different.

No terra incognita or exploration.

No royal marriages.

Tech would have to be rewritten.

What else?

	16-05-2005 02:37									#2
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No missionaries. Colonization is different. No terra incognita or exploration. No royal marriages.

That's already very, very bad. Religious intolerance/conversions, colonization and exploration are extremely important elements in EU2, that are nearly inexistent in Vicky.

besides, in EU2, your regime is more or less apt for diplomacy, economy, commerce etc. (the political slider system) which doesn't work in Vicky at all.

There's also the world market, that is a large problem: EU2 countries didn't have access to all of the world's resources (because of insufficient exploration, transportation, and because of mercantilism). Short of shutting down the world market, and make each country strive for its own resources (which is unrealistic as well), I don't see how the problem can be solved.

	16-05-2005 11:09									#3
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You could get around the WM issue with a suitable allocation of prestige (although with only the one everybody outside Europe is going to be royally screwed).
Religion could be 'simulated' by event (increased RR etc) although with a hundred odd countries and many more provinces you'd be pretty stretched to do it all.

Basically it seems like an awful lot of work without a great deal of reward?

	16-05-2005 11:13									#4
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It's highly likely EU3 will be out by the time you're finished.

	16-05-2005 13:30									#5
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che what kind of geek are you? Not only do you spend too much of your free time playing EU2 and Vicky, now you even want to combine the two? There's more to life than Vicky and EU2, you know

	16-05-2005 13:44									#6
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Yes indeed. There's HoI too. CK I've heard good things about but I haven't really gotten that far into it yet ...

	16-05-2005 16:54									#7
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HoI 2 too

	16-05-2005 19:37									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion che what kind of geek are you?

A big one.

	21-05-2005 05:56									#9
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There's an EUIII? Praise the non-existent Lord!!!

	22-05-2005 20:47									#10
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It's not even in development yet, don't get your underies in an uproar. Hell, so far, it's only a dream in the minds of fans.

	22-05-2005 22:50									#11
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It's not even in development yet, don't get your underies in an uproar. Hell, so far, it's only a dream in the minds of fans.

and Johan.



But anyways... why would you want to convert Victoria into EU2?

	23-05-2005 19:40									#12
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More acurate provinces, roads, changing primary products, pops with multiple religions and ethnicities, etc.

	23-05-2005 20:12									#13
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara More acurate provinces,

I thought that the EU2 map could be modded/expanded now?

	24-05-2005 00:19									#14
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It can. I don't remember all the changes, but I think there could be made more than 200 new provinces with the new betas. Then again, that is only taken from my, in this case, not totally reliable memory.

	24-05-2005 19:28									#15
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There's 400 new provinces possible in beta, but no one has yet succeeded in actually making a map, plus there's lots of arguments about every detail. It will be quite some time before that happens.

	25-05-2005 03:26									#16
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Vicky is very complicated. I'm still trying to learn how to manage my population in order to get enough factory workers and farmers.

	25-05-2005 05:33									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Vicky is very complicated. I'm still trying to learn how to manage my population in order to get enough factory workers and farmers.

If you're an immigration country (the New World, especially the US), then attract migrants like that:
- Be a democracy
- Have a "full citizenship" party in power
- Have the liberals or socialists in power
- Have generous social policies and no debt

You may want to increase your natality. To that effect, you need:
- taxes lower than 50%
- no tariffs (the more goods a POP can buy, the more it reproduces)
- the best healthcare you can afford. Quite a few players pick the best healthcare on day 1.