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Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:20
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PLATO has been added to the conversation.
Paddy says:
The save is in
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
hello
Paddy says:
Lets have an official turn chat
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
this is D day
Paddy says:
woo hoo
tally ho old chap wot!!!
Ljube says:
First impression - I really hate Beta and his minions
Paddy says:
The Babs have put Monarchy on the table - unaccepted
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
yeah
Paddy says:
messing around time and time again
Ljube says:
yes, the hell with them
Paddy says:
hehe - later on that
Ljube says:
I can't wait for our forces to punish them
Paddy says:
hehe
Ljube says:
they are lying about sending troops to help us fight aqua
Ljube says:
instead they are spreading and reinforcing new cities with spears and horses
Paddy says:
Babs have also got Code of Laws from somewhere now
Ljube says:
who's got it?
Paddy says:
many
Ljube says:
perhaps they spread monarchy
Ljube says:
exchanged it for code of laws
Paddy says:
does not matter really
Paddy says:
we are not going to use monarchy anyway
Ljube says:
everybody has got code of laws
Ljube says:
indeed
Paddy says:
and more others go into anarchy is good
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
I think we should burn Antioch and make peace with aqua
Ljube says:
forcing him to yield something
Paddy says:
matey - no.
Ljube says:
sorry, sidon
Ljube says:
why not?
Paddy says:
can we stay focused on the turn
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
I am at work and have limited time
Ljube says:
ah, ok
Ljube says:
let's play it fast then
Paddy says:
Cities.
Paddy says:
KBH?
Ljube says:
No change needed it seems
Ljube says:
nothing will be produced next turn
Ljube says:
and cities are using right tiles
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
OK, now trades
Paddy says:
wooo
Ljube says:
what are we going to do about babs?
Paddy says:
hang on, I need to do my reports
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
babs - no change
Ljube says:
OK, what about the trade: lit for monarchy?
Paddy says:
is an agreed to deal
Ljube says:
we just offer lit again?
Paddy says:
will question them as to why not sent accepted
Paddy says:
indeed
Ljube says:
ok
Paddy says:
troops.
Ljube says:
OK
Ljube says:
The stack (18 units)
Ljube says:
move 3-3-2
Ljube says:
they are now visible to aqua
Ljube says:
We'll have lots to discuss with aqua
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
I expect several phone calls this evening
Ljube says:
hehe
Ljube says:
13th horse guard join the stack
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
S&D attack barb camp
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
well done
Paddy says:
promotion and gold
Ljube says:
more barbs please
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
hehehe
Paddy says:
will piss that Babs worrior a biot
Ljube says:
Double Edge 2
Ljube says:
haha
Ljube says:
red roughrider 6-6-9-6-6-3
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
New horse name?
Ljube says:
Aqua Slayer?
Paddy says:
not really
Paddy says:
hehe
Paddy says:
ahhh I see I did not have one ready
looking up Soothsayers page
Ljube says:
Spirit of Tennessee?
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
Plato is from tennessee
Ljube says:
one of the oldest families
Paddy says:
Bloodmane
Paddy says:
Firehoof
Ljube says:
Firehoof (haven't we used that one already)?
Paddy says:
do not think so
Ljube says:
let me check
Paddy says:
We have stormhoof
Ljube says:
in the meantime think of warrior name
Paddy says:
Warrior - BoneCrusher
Ljube says:
OK, and firehoof we haven't used
Ljube says:
so ok
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
firehoof to the front
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
OK, now we need to decide what to do about the evil lost boy
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
Grim death 8
Paddy says:
certainly
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
and bloodseeker 6 I'd say
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
Bone Crusher?
Ljube says:
fort for now?
Paddy says:
move him to further push LB warrior somewhere
Paddy says:
brb - phone
Ljube says:
OK
Paddy says:
back
Ljube says:
ok, then up that mountain
Ljube says:
bone crusher 3
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
Now, I'd like shadow striker moved closer to FA
Paddy says:
hmmmm LB issues
Ljube says:
even if it means up lux
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
I am happy with that
Ljube says:
you never know with this rng
Paddy says:
indeed
Ljube says:
so 3-2
Ljube says:
halfway in between
Ljube says:
to be able to get back to kbh
Paddy says:
why not 322
Ljube says:
same
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
3-2 more flexible
Paddy says:
ok
Ljube says:
3-2 protects 4 cities, ain't that great
Ljube says:
I just noticed it
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
He is on Interior Patrol Duty
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
what to do with LB now?
Ljube says:
I say retaliate for the threat their warrior posed
Ljube says:
capture that worker and raze Venture next turn
Ljube says:
we may get a leader with our Bataar
Paddy says:
retaliate - for what?
Ljube says:
for their warriro moving close to horde border
Ljube says:
endangering our cities
Ljube says:
we've gone to war for less
Paddy says:
oh come off it...
Paddy says:
hahahaha
Paddy says:
are you looking for an excuse
Ljube says:
indeed I am
Ljube says:
want to raze the lot
Ljube says:
can't trust them evil doers
Paddy says:
we need a sound reason to attack this turn, I see plenty soon enough
I personally feel we wait 1 turn
Ljube says:
axis of evil
Paddy says:
they are not attacking us
Paddy says:
nor have they threatened us
Ljube says:
Lost boys constitute an axis of evil
Ljube says:
ok
Ljube says:
we can delay the attack for one turn I guess
Paddy says:
I just feel we are rushing in there at the moment
Paddy says:
and all under the eye of the Babs
Ljube says:
you called them castle of cards on sand
Paddy says:
I do not want them turning to DR as allie
Paddy says:
Geo-Politics are at stake
Paddy says:
Babs have not handed over the tech yet
Nor have they declared war on DR
Paddy says:
so if LB is or is not a castle of sand, attacking LB could change the TNA before we gain anything
Ljube says:
I see
Ljube says:
all right
Ljube says:
just feel sick when I look at them
Ljube says:
defending cities with warriors
Ljube says:
also, we may give them time to upgrade them warriors to swords thus becoming tougher
Paddy says:
so, do we wait there or move, possibly move 8
PLATO says:
hello
Ljube says:
move 8
Paddy says:
hello
Ljube says:
hello
PLATO says:
Looks like I'm late.
Paddy says:
Ljube says:
you came at the right time
Ljube says:
no decisions before this moment
Ljube says:
I just told paddy lost boys make me feel sick in my stomach
PLATO says:
Got stuck in a nasty little war with the Germans in an SP game.
Ljube says:
wow
PLATO says:
Lost Boys...hehe...I just don't know about them. The world at war and they say, "Hey, wanna build a harbor?"
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
and they are building a wonder, colossus no less, hahaha
PLATO says:
It will be a nice prize.
Ljube says:
could be a pre-build though
Paddy says:
hahaha
Paddy says:
well we have a nice war chest at the moment - 536 gold
Ljube says:
that's great
Ljube says:
when we get to teh new age we'll be able to research at high speed and still upgrade units
PLATO says:
Indeed. We are well prepared
Ljube says:
lux must be set to 40 % Paddy
Paddy says:
done
Paddy says:
Martha?
Ljube says:
OK, so we move 8 (bataar)
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
martha irigate
Paddy says:
done
Ljube says:
Long Eyes?
Paddy says:
HLEyes?
Paddy says:
4,1
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
start looking for possible DR troops sneaking around
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
done
PLATO says:
It doesn't look like they have added anything to their stack in a couple of turns
Paddy says:
no
Ljube says:
who?
PLATO says:
DR
Ljube says:
Plato, I think Lost Boys violated the International law by threatening our warker and our empty city of FA with their aggressive warrior.
PLATO says:
I think they may have some units coming on line soon...great idea to begin scouting them
Ljube says:
What do you think?
PLATO says:
They did what? Your'e kidding.
Ljube says:
of course I am
PLATO says:
haha...I thought someone lost boyed their mind...hehe
Ljube says:
I would so much love if lost boys would violate our territory even by mistake
PLATO says:
hehe...mere target practice for the Red GUard
Ljube says:
hehe
PLATO says:
poor 1889 probably would love the relief...hehe
Ljube says:
hahaha
Ljube says:
that's a good one
Paddy says:
any other business
Paddy says:
1st Ancient Cav next turn I believe
Ljube says:
that's great
PLATO says:
sorry Great Khan, I digressed
Paddy says:
it is all good
Paddy says:
Lord Soothsayer
please refer to the Ordered Post in the 1450bc thread
in the "Our Towns" section
here you will find that we are in need of several new unit names
can I leave this matter with you to sort out
once you have the names let me know so that I can add them into there spots etc
Ljube says:
indeed
PLATO says:
It shall be done
Paddy says:
I know there are names in your lists etc
I will leave to you to place them etc
Paddy says:
thank you
PLATO says:
haha...ran out of ones you liked, did I?
Paddy says:
now now
Ljube says:
need more savage names
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
opps
PLATO says:
Indeed...The spirit of the warrior needs to ride in every horses heart...we be Mongols!
Ljube says:
opps?
Paddy says:
I will send the save so hopefully Babs will play now
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
That would be good. Great turn rate.
Ljube says:
OK, my thoughts, babs gave monarchy to lost boys for code of laws
Ljube says:
lost boys will go to anarchy soon
Ljube says:
that's our chance to annihilate them
Ljube says:
let me loose, O Great Khan
PLATO says:
I think we should get to Antioch myself, before becoming otherwise entangled.
Ljube says:
I think we should force aqua to sign a favourable peace and then destroy the castle of sand
Paddy says:
no
PLATO says:
hmmm...I am not sure there can be peace with aqua
Paddy says:
Must Must Kill Aqua
Paddy says:
you let aqua live and we all loose
PLATO says:
It would only allow him to reload and he is on the ropes now
Paddy says:
do the job, do it right
Paddy says:
aqua is not our friend
Paddy says:
we must finish DR
Paddy says:
no escape
Ljube says:
it may be impossible to achieve
Ljube says:
with acceptable losses I mean
Paddy says:
give over mate
Paddy says:
letting him live is not acceptable
Paddy says:
for he will turn every team against us
PLATO says:
hmmm...haven't I heard this argument before?
Ljube says:
I've always been on this position
Paddy says:
no argument, just a fact
we have alliances and deals set
we will finisah this, or you have a new KHAN
PLATO says:
aqua must be destroyed. he represents the single greatest threat on the map
Paddy says:
if we stray then I step down that day.
Ljube says:
perhaps, but in doing so we must not jeopardize our supremacy
Paddy says:
with 3 - 4 nations....
Paddy says:
we keep our word
PLATO says:
so...how do you really feel Paddy?
Paddy says:
hmmm, well lets me see.....
Paddy says:
please see above
PLATO says:
hehe
Paddy says:
Ljube are you still here
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
ahhh
Paddy says:
are you smiling
PLATO says:
Ljube, with aqua gone, then the opportunity to wrap this game up quickly comes. He is the counterweight to the Horde. Once he is gone, then the pendulum swings our way
PLATO says:
@ Ljube
Ljube says:
what troubles me is the missed opportunity
PLATO says:
@ Paddy
Paddy says:
Ljube says:
Lost Boys with their play style will benefit from monarchy greatly
Ljube says:
they may become to tough a nut to crack
Paddy says:
So too a three front war would be bad
Paddy says:
DR - LB - Babs
Ljube says:
yes
Paddy says:
and we know the Babs are not to be trusted
Ljube says:
that's why I suggest peace with DR
Paddy says:
not going to happen mate
Ljube says:
and we offer them expansion at the expense of lost boys
Paddy says:
never
Paddy says:
we are on a course, we must follow it through
Paddy says:
an attack on LB was a side show at best
PLATO says:
There is no doubt that LB may be a target of opportunity, but we must not lose sight that aqua represents the long term danger
Ljube says:
I consider lost boys a long term danger
PLATO says:
aqua 1st. Then combined AM-Horde attack on babs...then Horde swings to LB
Ljube says:
and aqua is a nuisance at best
Paddy says:
ok, I need to bring this to a halt
Paddy says:
we have a goal and a mission
Ljube says:
ok
PLATO says:
to far behind at this point I think
PLATO says:
ok
Paddy says:
and in that we need to get the job done
Ljube says:
ok
Ljube says:
we are going to need a constant flow of reinforcements to crack aqua
Paddy says:
Ljube, if you can not accept that then we need to know now
for if that is the case I need you to have NO contact with Aqua re the deception mission
none at all
Ljube says:
I accept it
Paddy says:
Ljube. please refer me to where you have stated that prior to today.
Ljube says:
just voiced my opinion, that's all
Paddy says:
mate, you wrote most of the battle plan, so I am listening
Paddy says:
I need to see where that is listed
Ljube says:
battle plans are fine, we can defeat them, the only variable is our losses
PLATO says:
With flow of reinforcements from Hordeland and Bardland, it will not be so bad
Ljube says:
I hope so, but bards aren't reinforcing unfortunately
Paddy says:
Ok, remember
I am the Red Guard WarLord
Bongo is the General
Ljube Operations Cheif
We are at war
PLATO says:
They just emptied their lands...I expect they will gather another stack shortly
PLATO says:
wrong chat...oops
Ljube says:
lol
PLATO says:
hehe
Ljube says:
OK, that's it. Depending on DR response we'll know what to do in the coming turns.
Ljube says:
If they move troops to antioch
Ljube says:
we'll probably need more spears to mount a successful campaign
PLATO says:
Once they move troops they expose themselves to bards...they can't defend both
Ljube says:
I hope and pray we get a leader.
Paddy says:
do you see anyway they could have 36 units?
PLATO says:
That would be awesome!
Paddy says:
a leader would be awesome
Ljube says:
A fair chance to get one
Paddy says:
something we should all consider...
do we keep Sidon and/or Antioch?
Ljube says:
keep sidon
PLATO says:
keep Antioch...Iron
Ljube says:
if we get leader we need a city to build army
Ljube says:
keep both
Ljube says:
sidon for sure
Ljube says:
sidon size 1 though
Ljube says:
hope it grows and they don't rush
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
yeah
Ljube says:
Paddy says:
not much chance, but a hope
Ljube says:
yes
Ljube says:
perhaps our skilful diplomats can convince them we mean no attack and want peace
Ljube says:
they would not rush in sidon then I hope
Paddy says:
not likely now
Ljube says:
then we capture it
Paddy says:
Aqua asked me 3 - 5 times last night if we were in league with the Bards
PLATO says:
haha...finally he hears a bell!
Paddy says:
hehehe
PLATO says:
Soon he will realize that it tolls for him...hahahaha
Ljube says:
we say no and agree to a peace treaty which would include them giving us currency and gold. Then next turn we don't accept it and attack
Paddy says:
he has been asking for over a week, last night he was really pushing the point
Paddy says:
interesting
Paddy says:
with next turn, the attack
Khan's Own Faithfuls (horseman 4/4)
Bongolian Royal Red Guards (horseman 4/4)
Soothsayer's Savages (horseman 5/5)
Black Lightning (horseman 5/5)
Stormhoof (horseman 5/5)
The Eingana Princesses of Ta-Tu (horseman 4/4)
13th Horse Guards (horseman 4/4)
Bloodsteed (horseman 4/4)
Paddy says:
are they to go right in with the infantry 2 turns behind
PLATO says:
well...snoopy posted an interesting post in the public forum about him being suprised by what he might find if he ventured to bard land
Ljube says:
yes, the masks have fallen
PLATO says:
aqua has the answer he requested...hehe
Paddy says:
Our infantry 2 turns from Sidon
Scarface (swords 4/4)
Long Blades (swords 4/4)
Hammerhead (swords 3/3)
The Wanderers (swords 3/3)
Cardial Crusher (swords 4/4)
Devourer of Light (swords 4/4)
Hot Lips (spearwoman 4/4)
Redwench (spearwoman 4/4)
Miss Watcher (spearwoman 3/3)
Far Striker (archer 4/4)
Bloodshaft (archer 4/4)
PLATO says:
Sidon will fall easily. Then we will see what he does with troop movements. After next turn would be good time for bard war conference
Ljube says:
yes, what troubles me is poor defence of our stack
Paddy says:
me too
Paddy says:
what if the entire army was to march 1 tile next turn?
PLATO says:
no
Paddy says:
then unleash the horse
PLATO says:
It leaves open to attack from sidon and i don't like aqua's manipulation of the RNG
Ljube says:
manipulation?
Paddy says:
yes, but there are defenders in there
PLATO says:
I have suspicions...
Paddy says:
and archers, who will get off shots at any who attack
Ljube says:
I think paddy the truth in civ lies in offence, not defence
Ljube says:
we must attack next turn using horses
Ljube says:
and destroy sidon I guess
Ljube says:
it will probably be size 1 anyway
Ljube says:
also, delaying a turn opens an avenue for walls
Ljube says:
now, I wouldn't like walls at all
Paddy says:
me neither mate
PLATO says:
Indeed...I agree Ljube. The attack must come next turn
PLATO says:
Which direction are we planning on hitting Antioch from
Ljube says:
depends
PLATO says:
on?
Paddy says:
lads, please chataway while I run some papers down to a courier, if I miss either of you, thank you for this stimulating chat
Ljube says:
thank you paddy
PLATO says:
run forrest run
Ljube says:
Ljube says:
depends on dr movement
Ljube says:
pop rushing
Ljube says:
etc
PLATO says:
It looks as if there is a lake involved. To the east or west?
Ljube says:
the extense of damage to our troops
Ljube says:
extent
PLATO says:
I doubt they have more than three units in sidon, what do you think?
Ljube says:
yes, but rng might be such our horses lose strength
Ljube says:
if we get a leader we will win the game
PLATO says:
yes, but the infantry can press on while they heal and they can catch up
Ljube says:
it all comes down to taht one leader
Ljube says:
no, infantry is vulnerable to immortals
PLATO says:
wow. Soothsayer's Savages will rule the day!
PLATO says:
how many can they have?
PLATO says:
It seems they are all tied up with the bards
Ljube says:
who knows now, perhaps 11-12
Ljube says:
they aren't really tied
PLATO says:
9 are facing down bard, right?
Ljube says:
yes
PLATO says:
so 2-3?
Ljube says:
in antioch some 2 or 3 yes
Ljube says:
I hope we catch one or two in sidon, but it's a small chance
PLATO says:
by the time we attack the horse will have caught up. If they weaken themselves on attacking the infantry than the horse will cut into the heart of the city
Ljube says:
what troubles me is DR horses
Ljube says:
they have quite a few of them
PLATO says:
They are strangely absent from the picture, aren't they?
Ljube says:
they may even be stationed in antioch
PLATO says:
I would imagine that aqua would commit quite a bit to protecting his iron source
Ljube says:
I would do that too
PLATO says:
I do anticipate him splitting his force with some on the iron and some in antioch
Paddy says:
back
PLATO says:
Have you thought about two pronged attack?
Ljube says:
with the few forces we have?
PLATO says:
remember. we should have advantage with bulk of his forces engaging bards
Ljube says:
not sure thing
Ljube says:
bards have a terrible tactics, no offense
PLATO says:
perhaps infantry to the east of the lake and horse to the west?
Paddy says:
yes they do.
PLATO says:
well...much to consider. I need to sleep on it. Thanks for great chat guys...oh and looking forward to baptisim! hehe Goodnight all!
Paddy says:
be well - bye
Ljube says:
bye plato
PLATO says:
bye
PLATO has left the conversation.
Paddy says:
Ljube, the Bards are opening up for advice
Ljube says:
good
Paddy says:
I know Snoop is an old grouch
Paddy says:
but he is on holidays from the 24 th June
Ljube says:
It's best to fully coordinate our attack if we wish it to be successful
Paddy says:
Rhoth - current turn player, and McMeadows, their main player, have both asked for our input
Ljube says:
excellent
Paddy says:
so please put something together
Ljube says:
ok, will do
Ljube says:
we're behind with ancient cavalries
Ljube says:
in fact, bards rushed to this war
Paddy says:
behind???
Ljube says:
well, the war started to early
Ljube says:
so we don't have them produced in quantities
Paddy says:
yes
Ljube says:
and no support from babylon, none expected
Ljube says:
I think they are using our "alliance" to obtain knowledge
Ljube says:
from us and bards
Ljube says:
and give nothing in return
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
re: Bards, o I shall look forward to a plan from you soon then?
Ljube says:
yes, but I don't think we can have a viable attack on them soon
Ljube says:
our forces are simply too far and engaged
Paddy says:
Bards stack of doom mate
Paddy says:
not babs
Ljube says:
ah, ok
Ljube says:
sorrry
Paddy says:
hehe
Paddy says:
ok, my time is well up
thank you
Ljube says:
see you tomorrow
Paddy says:
cheers
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