22-05-2005 02:23									#31
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Well, it certainly won't run on mine...


I'm a bit surprised they want to actually release the game this year. Maybe it really is almost finished but this release date seems way too fast for me.

	22-05-2005 03:09									#32
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I saw Gamespot had Nov. 1 as the date when I read the preview a day or two ago....

but, i took it with a grain of salt.

	22-05-2005 03:47									#33
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quote: Originally posted by CapTVK I'm a bit surprised they want to actually release the game this year. Maybe it really is almost finished but this release date seems way too fast for me.

It's been under development for two years. That will be two and a half when it hits the stores. That's actually considered a pretty long time for most games...

	22-05-2005 03:50									#34
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quote: My system is an Athlon 1.6 GHz with 512 MB RAM and a Geforce FX 5200.

If Civ4 wouldn't be perfectly smooth on that, I'd be disappointed, because previous Civ games always ran very well on low-end PCs, and that's not a low-end PC. Seems already that due to the 3D engine Civ4 will require a real video card instead of an integrated one.

	22-05-2005 04:11									#35
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2 years is quite alot of time. I bet they have some good stuff going.

	22-05-2005 05:30									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: My system is an Athlon 1.6 GHz with 512 MB RAM and a Geforce FX 5200. If Civ4 wouldn't be perfectly smooth on that, I'd be disappointed, because previous Civ games always ran very well on low-end PCs, and that's not a low-end PC. Seems already that due to the 3D engine Civ4 will require a real video card instead of an integrated one.

You should have a 'real' video card anyway, as integrated graphics can't be updated and just generally suck.

	22-05-2005 05:51									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: My system is an Athlon 1.6 GHz with 512 MB RAM and a Geforce FX 5200. If Civ4 wouldn't be perfectly smooth on that, I'd be disappointed, because previous Civ games always ran very well on low-end PCs, and that's not a low-end PC. Seems already that due to the 3D engine Civ4 will require a real video card instead of an integrated one.

I'd say those specs are pretty low-end,especilly with a release date six months from now.

	22-05-2005 09:38									#38
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The holiday season, in America anyway, is Halloween > Thanksgiving > Christmas > New Years, or Oct 30 to January 1. The peak is between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

	22-05-2005 15:54									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna The game is based on Pirates' engine. The specs of Pirates are (minimum) 1GHz Pentium/Athlon processor, 256 RAM memory, 32 RAM video card.

I imagine the requirements for cIV will be somewhat higher, simply because there is the potential for much more units to be on screen at the same time, but I imagine it should do well on the 1.6GHz PC above.

	22-05-2005 17:06									#40
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What I imagine as low-end is more like a 1GHz PC with 256 MB RAM. I'm not worried either way because I have a DX9 graphics card with 256 MB VRAM, but I always want games to have low requirements .

	22-05-2005 19:49									#41
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hummm
i have two comps, one is 2 yr old desktop athlon 1600, 256, 32 mb nvidia. the other is one yr old compaq presario with 2,8 athlon xp-m, 512 mb (out of which 64 megs go to integrated video card).
seems, all of a sudden, that i will be screwed on both comps. i could not find any link to check those quoted specs, but those estimations look pretty steep

	22-05-2005 19:59									#42
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I think your laptop will very likely run the game just fine.

My only computer is a 1.7GHz laptop with 512MB RAM and an integrated GeForce 440 Go video card. It ran Pirates just fine. One of the few games these days I didn't notice any lag in.

	22-05-2005 20:03									#43
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You should definitely not be screwed on your laptop, though you may want to turn off some of the graphical effects.

	22-05-2005 20:11									#44
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desktop will be scrapped by the end of the year anyway

	23-05-2005 19:55									#45
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quote: What I imagine as low-end is more like a 1GHz PC with 256 MB RAM.

That's really a low-end.

My home PC is an old 1.2G Celeron with 256 RAM, so I hope the reqs will be no higher than that..

And about laptops - as a general rule thay tend to be slower than desktop computers, so you should distract some 20-30% from it's speed to get the actual resources you have.

	23-05-2005 22:18									#46
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Or that the price is 20-30% higher for a laptop with equivalent power to a desktop

	23-05-2005 23:52									#47
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The only notebook issue I have with Civ III is the annoying key pad issue; it has plenty of power.

I'd defintely like to see in Civ IV the following options maped to other keys which interfere with numeric keyboard mapping of notebooks:

Irrigation : How about renaming to Farming so it can use "f"?
Mining : How about renaming to Hamering so it can use "h"?

And please map "*" to a "0" inside the gold / gold per turn fields in negoiations, so I don't have to turn off the numeric key pad for that.

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Yahoo should also add on their invalid password message in addition to the caps lock being on the numeric key pad being on. I've often forgotten I left numeric key pad on.

	24-05-2005 00:02									#48
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn The only notebook issue I have with Civ III is the annoying key pad issue; it has plenty of power. I'd defintely like to see in Civ IV the following options maped to other keys which interfere with numeric keyboard mapping of notebooks: Irrigation : How about renaming to Farming so it can use "f"? Mining : How about renaming to Hamering so it can use "h"? And please map "*" to a "0" inside the gold / gold per turn fields in negoiations, so I don't have to turn off the numeric key pad for that.

I think it'd just make most sense to allow some mechanism for the player to redefine the keys.

	24-05-2005 00:12									#49
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Low end is of course a matter of view, but I have a 3 year old(If not older) computer running on a P4 2GHz, 512 MB RAM. And as 3 year is the "standard" life span of a computer(well, that certainly has changed, I can play all my games on this computer with no problems...), that should at most be regarded as a medium end computer I guess.

	24-05-2005 00:26									#50
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The game will be 3D, so whatever graphics card and RAM you have will determine how smooth the interface will work. I know my 1,5 year old system ran Doom3 just fine. Is the Pirates' graphics engine more or less challenging?

	26-05-2005 06:06									#51
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Here is what I received.

	26-05-2005 17:34									#52
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quote: The game will be 3D, so whatever graphics card and RAM you have will determine how smooth the interface will work. I know my 1,5 year old system ran Doom3 just fine. Is the Pirates' graphics engine more or less challenging?

Don't kid me . No engine is more challenging right now than the Doom3 engine. Certainly if you could run any of the 2004 big shooters, you can run Civ4.

	28-05-2005 17:52									#53
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certainly hope many can run it without too many costly upgrades

	29-05-2005 01:25									#54
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quote: Originally posted by binTravkin That's really a low-end.

so much for my s****y new 350mhz p3!!
(and i do mean millihertz)

over here "the holidays" means anything from 24/12 (christmas eve) to 26/1 (australia day). as opposed to february which is commonly referred to as 'the hang-over'

oh, and then there's easter, labour day, anzac day, queen's birthday, proclamation day, melbourne cup day, eight hours day, blood oath day, proclamation day, bank holiday and additional days just in case any of the above falls on a sunday.

anyway, looks like i'll be stuck with c3c for some time yet

edit: omg they bleeped sw@nky!

	29-05-2005 01:32									#55
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quote: Originally posted by lebensraum so much for my s****y new 350mhz p3!! (and i do mean millihertz)

More like megahertz .

	29-05-2005 01:34									#56
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I think you missed the point.

	29-05-2005 01:35									#57
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I almost got a stroke :P.

	29-05-2005 01:57									#58
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quote: Originally posted by lebensraum edit: omg they bleeped sw@nky!

Well it does have w@nk in there.

	29-05-2005 21:26									#59
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theocratic police state!!!

	29-05-2005 22:53									#60
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You mean, Iran?