19-05-2005 12:52									#1
	'Official' releasedate: November Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

The 'official' website www.civanon.org gives November as a release 'date'.

http://www.civanon.org/support.shtml

That's six long months!

	19-05-2005 12:53									#2
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(I thought this deserved a thread on it's own)

	19-05-2005 12:59									#3
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Errrm... in the E3 interview, Barry Caudill said:

quote: We started working on the game about 2 years ago and expect to have it in stores for the holidays.

Anyone got a clues as to what holidays he meant? I live in France, when speaking of 'the holidays' here, it means june/july/august

But I guess September it will be - no false hopes...

	19-05-2005 12:59									#4
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thanks CyberShy

only two hours ago on the train we were just talking about when they would release it...

	19-05-2005 13:07									#5
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Yeah, tell that to the Polish publisher, if there even is one yet...

	19-05-2005 13:24									#6
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@Modo44: do you absolutely need one? I'm in france, and I usually order from amazon UK to have the game in english - or are you waiting ofr a polish translation?

	19-05-2005 13:33									#7
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quote: Originally posted by AeonOfTime @Modo44: do you absolutely need one?

Not to play it—my English is good enough. But it will cost much more if I have to buy it abroad, at least for a while after it is released.

	19-05-2005 13:53									#8
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quote: Originally posted by AeonOfTime But I guess September it will be - no false hopes...

september is a false hope.
November is the official target if you would have visited civanon.org. It may only become later. Never earlier.

Where's the release-date prediction thread?
What date did I pick again?

	19-05-2005 14:01									#9
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quote: @Modo44: ut it will cost much more if I have to buy it abroad, at least for a while after it is released.

You mean you did not start putting little euro bills under your pillow each month when Civ4 was announced?

quote: @CyberShy: November is the official target if you would have visited civanon.org. It may only become later. Never earlier.

Aaargh! I know a little healthy pessimism cannot do any harm, but NOVEMBER?...

	19-05-2005 14:05									#10
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quote: Originally posted by AeonOfTime You mean you did not start putting little euro bills under your pillow each month when Civ4 was announced?

I mean I could buy other things too if I get CIV cheaper. But hey, I might skip pepsi for half a year—that would "make" about enough money... and so healthy it would be.

Of course I will buy it anyway. CivCrack has me.

	19-05-2005 15:08									#11
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Et merde...

Because of an unknown flow somewhere, I cannot watch the videos. Could someone give me the link to them, so I can download them (and then maybe I'll be able to watch them)

Thanks !

	19-05-2005 15:38									#12
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If you mean the videos from civanon.org, here's the link to the main movie:

http://www.civanon.org/movies/trailer.mov

	19-05-2005 21:36									#13
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quote: Originally posted by AeonOfTime Aaargh! I know a little healthy pessimism cannot do any harm, but NOVEMBER?...

Yeah. Here in North America, when we refer to "the holidays" we're usually referring to the Christmas holidays, not the summer holidays.

	19-05-2005 21:40									#14
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Dropping the "North", of "North America" will define "the holidays" as starting with Thanksgiving Day on November 26 through New Years Day. Canada celebrates Thanksgiving Day on a different day.

	19-05-2005 22:07									#15
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November... which year?

	19-05-2005 22:09									#16
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In the Gamespot video, I believe he said "the game will be out for holidays this year," so that'd be November 2005.

	19-05-2005 22:11									#17
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Well, official word has always been 'late 2005'. They're obviously not gonna release the game on Chrstmas day, so it was always gonna be November or the first two weeks of December at the very latest. And of course they won't aim for mid-December because then if there are setbacks they won't have any room to move the date back, so obviously they are aiming at a probably early-mid November release. But what they are aiming for and what the actual release date is going to be are two very different things, it can still end up being released from anywhere between probably very late October and mid-December -- even Soren doesn't know that yet...

	19-05-2005 22:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Trifna November... which year?

hehe bloody good question that

	19-05-2005 22:31									#19
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I'd say it's pretty weird calling Christmas "the holiday", as if there were no other holidays during the year.

	19-05-2005 22:40									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I'd say it's pretty weird calling Christmas "the holiday", as if there were no other holidays during the year.

Well, the whole last part of the year is just like one big holiday, starting with the Thanksgiving and up to just past New Year, any way, like someone above said, so that's what they usually mean when they say holiday season.

	19-05-2005 22:43									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I'd say it's pretty weird calling Christmas "the holiday", as if there were no other holidays during the year.

Holidays. It refers to New Year as well, and Hannukah(sp?) and Festivus (), and normally also to other holidays that fall a few weeks earlier, such as Thanksgiving in the US (and St. Nicholas in the Netherlands ) But when it comes to release dates for games and the like, the term 'in time for the holidays' usually just means in time for Christmas/New Year, not (always) the other ones.

	19-05-2005 22:58									#22
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I think 'in time for the holidays' means 'in time for people to buy our product as a Christmas gift'.

Cynical, but true.

	19-05-2005 23:10									#23
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I'd call the summer holidays, Easter and such pretty important too, and they're at the other half of the year...

	19-05-2005 23:11									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon I think 'in time for the holidays' means 'in time for people to buy our product as a Christmas gift'.

Exactly. And that's not even cynical IMO: it's a hard economic fact that about a third of all games sales (don't remember the exact figure but it's close to that) is made in the weeks before Christmas. For many games, not being on store shelves in that period means not turning a profit, or worse...

	20-05-2005 00:06									#25
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Damn, i'll found my own religion and declare July 9th as the GAZmas, the most important holiday!

(July 9th is my birthday )

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	20-05-2005 01:06									#26
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November 15th, as I said in another thread.

	20-05-2005 01:18									#27
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So... I have until November to upgrade my PC.

Actually, anyone know what the specs are yet?(There may still be hope for my old machine.)

	20-05-2005 02:11									#28
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What are your current specs?

	20-05-2005 03:12									#29
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The game is based on Pirates' engine. The specs of Pirates are (minimum) 1GHz Pentium/Athlon processor, 256 RAM memory, 32 RAM video card.

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	20-05-2005 04:46									#30
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My system is an Athlon 1.6 GHz with 512 MB RAM and a Geforce FX 5200.

Anyone with a system similar to mine will probably experience some slowdown in cIV, especially on later ages, when things get bigger and there are more units around. Don't expect to zoom in and out smoothly, and be prepared to have some slowdown while trying to rotate the camera.

On the other hand, now the 3D engine may offer the option to play on a lower resolution (like 800x600) and then things get a bit more manageable. I surely hope so.

(Don't forget that I'm basing my opinion on my personal experience with Pirates; it is possible that Firaxis have found how to optimize the engine now that they have more experience with it.)