20-05-2005 09:37									#1
	FG: Mastermind Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Anyone remember this game? It makes an excellent FG, IMO.

Master Mind

The Rules:

The "setter" chooses a pattern of four pegs, each peg being one of six colors:
Blue, Red, Orange, Green, Yellow, and Purple. IE, RYRG would be red/yellow/red/green. You may use a color as many times as you like.

The guessers, ie the FG crowd, have 10 guesses to get it right. An update occurs between each guess.

Each guess is updated by presenting up to four pegs, black or white, representing how close the guesses were. Each peg of a correct color gets at least a white peg; if it is also in the right spot in order, it gets a black peg. The black/white pegs are not in any order, and they do not denote *which* pegs are in which spot.

For example, using RYRG as the correct answer:

GGGG gets B (one green is in the right spot)
RRRR gets BB (two reds, both in the right spot)
RYRY gets BBB (two reds and a yellow, all correct spots)
YRYR gets WWW (two reds and a yellow, none in right spot)
RYYR gets BBW (two reds and a yellow, two of which in the right spot)
RGYR gets BWWW (all four colors right, only the initial R is in the right spot)
etc.

You may not get any "answer" pegs at all in any given guess, or you may get all four, or any combination of them. Remember, getting no pegs is often more useful then getting one or two pegs, as that eliminates several colors.

The FGers may and should discuss possibilities before a final guess is made each time, although anyone at any time may make a guess. You may not make more than one guess for every three consecutive guesses, however (ie, guess-no-no-guess is fine).

Winner: This game is more collaborative than Hangman, but nonetheless the "final answerer" is considered the winner (whomever gets it right). If nobody gets it right, then the setter gets a point. I will probably keep these points separately, as this game is more "setter vs. guesser" than most games.

I'll start Please feel free to guess at any time, I'm going to bed so whomever's guess is listed first will be answered by me tomorrow.

	20-05-2005 16:05									#2
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Shouldn't you post your combination of pegs in a password-protected .zip file so that no-one can accuse you of cheating or changing it? Then, even if the game turns out to be boring or unpopular, we can at least play at trying to guess your password.

	20-05-2005 17:34									#3
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But you could do the same thing in Hangman, and we've never worried about it there...

	20-05-2005 17:41									#4
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I would prefer it to be one on one instead of hangman style

	20-05-2005 19:24									#5
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I'd gladly join this one, it sounds like it has some promise.

	20-05-2005 21:01									#6
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I'm not sure I want another GUESSING type FG game.
I'm still take abuse for allowing hangman from my peers.
And in hindsight I should have shut it down day 1 before it got entrenched.
I refuse to take abuse about another game.

I'll give it some thought, but the odds are not good.

Give me a reason to do otherwise.

If there is consensus to replace hangman with this, I'll do it in a second.

	20-05-2005 22:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by rah I'm not sure I want another GUESSING type FG game. I'm still take abuse for allowing hangman from my peers. And in hindsight I should have shut it down day 1 before it got entrenched. I refuse to take abuse about another game.

	20-05-2005 22:36									#8
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Mafia is a guessing type game.

	20-05-2005 23:11									#9
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To be honest I think Hangman's had its day. Close it down. There can't be many more words left in the dictionary anyway

	20-05-2005 23:55									#10
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I'd love to close it down.

	21-05-2005 00:44									#11
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I think Rah's right in that closing it down now it is a traditional game would be wrong, even if closing it down was the right decision initially, which is debatable.

	21-05-2005 02:01									#12
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Yes it would have been a judgement call. My judgement not debatable

	21-05-2005 02:15									#13
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Obviously it was, as you decided to allow it and have posted some doubts.

	21-05-2005 02:55									#14
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Personally, I think Hangman has run its course, and its feeding tube needs to be pulled. I mean... it's had 20(!) threads.

It's not like anyone's going to catch up to DrSpike's point total anyways.

And I remember playing Mastermind when I was younger... what a great game. Make the Switch!!!

	21-05-2005 03:00									#15
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Hmmm...I think the switch might be a nice idea, since there's much more potential for an Enhanced Graphics Edition of Mastermind than for Hangman...

	21-05-2005 03:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jonny it's had 20(!) threads.

All the more reason to continue.

	21-05-2005 06:26									#17
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I don't see what exactly the problem is? If it's fun, why not allow it? I suppose a few people play because of 'post count', which is the only issue I could imagine, but who really cares? If you want to up your post count, play a few PBEMs. That'll do it in a heartbeat. (Paddy, GT, and I are three of the highest P/D folk in the past year, and it's all because of PBEMs...) Postcount just doesn't matter very much, and to those whom it matters, they raise theirs adequately through "officially legitimate" means. Forum games are here to be enjoyed and fun...

	21-05-2005 06:28									#18
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... and I'll just move it here anywho, where it will undoubtedly flourish in the more spammy atmosphere ...

	21-05-2005 14:02									#19
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Good choice, and it will let people see how the game functions as a FG, for future reference.

	21-05-2005 14:44									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Jonny Personally, I think Hangman has run its course, and its feeding tube needs to be pulled. I mean... it's had 20(!) threads. It's not like anyone's going to catch up to DrSpike's point total anyways.

I shall catch him!!1