21-05-2005 06:11									#31
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I thought Europe was a bastion of taste and culture... but this stuff is worse than American idol...

better looking women though.

	21-05-2005 06:18									#32
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maybe that's because these folks sing their own stupid songs, instead of American Idol which is a singing contest, not song contest.

Euro Pop is known to be horrible.

	21-05-2005 06:20									#33
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There's a reason why nobody watches it

	21-05-2005 16:53									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II I thought Europe was a bastion of taste and culture...

Nah, we have a lot of shite on this side of the pond as well...

	21-05-2005 17:49									#35
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I think that if Finland ever finds the courage to send The Leningrad Cowboys to the Eurovision contest they would PwNz it with two hands behind their back...

	22-05-2005 00:17									#36
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Well, 100+ million viewers can't be wrong: a show featuring Ruslana with a flame-thrower is worth watching

	22-05-2005 00:56									#37
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Serbia's entry: proof of the lasting damage caused by NATO against the country, or evidence that the place should be bombed back to the stone age (again)?

	22-05-2005 00:59									#38
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Indeed, this time the Serbs would surely deserve it

So far, Moldova has the most kick-as show, their grandmommy is just so cool

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	22-05-2005 01:01									#39
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	22-05-2005 01:21									#40
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Hi, Ted Striker!

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The CivIRC expert committee formed by me, VJ and Jamski, predicts that LATVIA is going to win. Possibly by a landslide. Ukraine may also do pretty well. Jamski (musical quality expert) thinks Russia was #1 musically. And Jamski and I agree that "Vanilla Ninja" of SUI has the greatest band name ever.

	22-05-2005 01:55									#42
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I'm all for Moldova

	22-05-2005 02:12									#43
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Judging by those pictures I'd just like to say, whoever wins, please let it be a human of some sort.

	22-05-2005 03:07									#44
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Greece is doing great it seems ?

	22-05-2005 06:03									#45
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Greece won, after the european championship otra vez...

	22-05-2005 06:18									#46
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SAGAPO 4EVER!

	22-05-2005 11:19									#47
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we're on a roll




our next targets: eurobasket 2005, football world cup 2006

	22-05-2005 11:20									#48
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vs guys like this??

Never!


final results

1. Greece - 230
2. Malta - 192
3. Romania - 158
4. Israel - 154
5. Latvia - 153
6. Moldova - 148
7. Serbia & Montenegro - 137
8. Switzerland - 128
9. Norway - 125
10. Denmark - 125
11. Croatia
12. Hungary - 115
13. Turkey - 97
14. Bosnia & Herzegovina - 92
15. Russia - 79
16. Albania - 57
17. F.Y.R.O.M. - 53
18. Cyprus - 52
19. Sweden - 46
20. Ukraine - 30
21. Spain - 28
22. United Kingdom 18
23. France - 11
24. Germany - 4

	22-05-2005 11:30									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid Indeed, this time the Serbs would surely deserve it So far, Moldova has the most kick-as show, their grandmommy is just so cool

OMFG.......



I am so sorry that I haven't watched any of this.....


Ruslana with a flamethrower, tho.

	22-05-2005 12:44									#50
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Again a victory against taste (as usual). Norway or Moldova would have deserved victory. Well, the fat Maltese woman had a great voice and the song was rather good for a "Schnulze".

Germany...

Also, ex-Yugoslavian nations (and maybe Scandinavians) should be excluded from voting. While other alliances are limited to 2 (Greece, Cyprus) or 3 nations (UK, Ireland, Malta), Croatia has 40 points fixum from Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and Macedonia.
Macedonia gets additional 12 points from Albania...

And it's official: More people in Austria watch the voting than the contest.

	22-05-2005 13:10									#51
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quote: 21. Spain - 28 22. United Kingdom 18 23. France - 11 24. Germany - 4

GO AUTOMATIC ENTRANTS GO

	22-05-2005 14:10									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III Also, ex-Yugoslavian nations (and maybe Scandinavians) should be excluded from voting. While other alliances are limited to 2 (Greece, Cyprus) or 3 nations (UK, Ireland, Malta), Croatia has 40 points fixum from Slovenia, Serbia, Bosnia and Macedonia. Macedonia gets additional 12 points from Albania... And it's official: More people in Austria watch the voting than the contest.

There's an alliance between the UK and Ireland?

If you want to see "alliances", check out the voting patterns of the Baltic nations. However I think that's just a reflection of shared cultural values between neighbours, not some sort of conspiracy.

This means the multitude of little nations in the east now benefit, at the expense of the big nations in the West. That's why Western Europe comes last.

	22-05-2005 14:41									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu GO AUTOMATIC ENTRANTS GO

We write the cheques, we get the perks of always being in Eurovision.

Well, that was officially the campiest thing I've watched lately. Next year, I'm so hosting my own Eurovision party instead of viewing it in a bar.

	22-05-2005 16:55									#54
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Shiri Maimon - I'd hit it ( she's from my city, btw ).


Ruslana - I'd definetly hit it!!!!!!!!

	22-05-2005 18:23									#55
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Yeah I definately agree that Norway would have deserved the win.... they at least had some music... instead everyone just votes for a hot chick with an average song

And actually, I didn't find the ukranian rapper that bad.

On the positive front was that this time the classic votes did not decide so much. Ofc we saw the former eastern block giving points to russia and the mandatory Greece-Cyprus ( ) and of course Ex-Yugoslawia should be forced to be reunited again (based on how they vote for each other) but overall it was not that severe.

	22-05-2005 20:22									#56
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Yeah, because it's well-known that the people of former Yugo love eachother a lot.

Tito lives

	22-05-2005 20:22									#57
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The only song with even a bit of character was Moldova. The rest was a boring sludge of off-key singing, ethno crap and really bad clothing. Fashion disasters without an artistic bone in their bodies

And while Greece had a great show and Elena has a great voice (and she is from my hometown! ) the song itself was the same boring ethno crap as many others. Not to mention the fact that it was strangely disjointed between verse and refrain.

	22-05-2005 20:56									#58
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	22-05-2005 23:20									#59
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovi...ng_Contest_2005

The voting chart is very interesting, although it doesn't give a definite conclusion.

I didn't watch it, my closest friend Kostas had invited me out for drinks. All our female friends came 2 hours late because they were watching the contest however.

	23-05-2005 19:39									#60
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we got that one too. hopefully we can now get it out of our system.
(but truth be told paparizou was really really bonkable at the show and the dancing was great)