21-05-2005 08:38									#1
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In short , in the USA , from now on , any technology which may potentially have military applications will require a license to study , if you're from a "country of concern" ( which included India , but not Saudi Arabia ).

I say this is plain retarded . Almost every technology can have military applications .

	21-05-2005 08:51									#2
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OMFG!

The Commerce Department has made me have to agree with aneeshm

DAMN YOU COMMERCE DEPARTMENT! DAMN YOU TO HELL

	21-05-2005 08:54									#3
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Hmmm

The list of countries of concern is as follows:

quote: China, Cuba, India, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Libya, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, Sudan, and Syria

First of all, how many students from Cuba and NK are there in the US, really?? We don't even have diplomatic relations with them, or with Iran.

And why Iraq and Israel?

China, Pakistan, and India I sort of understand, thought not as much Russia.

	21-05-2005 08:55									#4
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aneeshm, hey by the way, I'm planning a trip (which I intend to do some work also, nothing to worry it's.. something of my own business, not taking your jobs over there ) to India next summer. I'll be possibly staying there for... maybe a month or so. This is not verified yet, but chances are it'll happen. Can I ask you some questions if this should happen, about just normal things? Nothing big, just normal FAQ of India type of things ??

Looking very much forward coming over there.

	21-05-2005 09:07									#5
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No problem , go ahead and ask all you want .

@ GePap

Did you know that "sensitive" topics included mechanical enginering , electronical engineering , and Comp. Sci. ? And that Saudi Arabia is not on the list of "countries of concern" ?

	21-05-2005 09:08									#6
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They should add every single middle eastern country on to that list. I suppose India gets on the list due to the nuclear bomb incident a few years back and because of the nasty habit Hindu nationalists have of burning train loads of muslim.

	21-05-2005 09:09									#7
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I support the policy, but the implementation seems awfully clumsy.

	21-05-2005 09:10									#8
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Ummm . . , , ,

It was a train load of Hindus that was burnt , actually .

And what nuke incident so you speak of ?

	21-05-2005 09:14									#9
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In India , there is a similar policy , but we don't restrict people like that . We have special institutes dedicated to military research , so that there is no such problem ( of "sensitivity" ) .

Normal students from normal universities are free to use any resources their university provides . Nobody not a citizen of India is admitted to the military universities in the first place , so no security problem . And once you pass out of the military university/research institute , you don't have to worry about a job - the military provides it . So no possible "leaks" .

	21-05-2005 09:19									#10
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The policy is really stupid. Its not like other countries are incapable of getting this kind of technology (we are not talking here about nuclear warheads, super colliders, rocket engines, or stealth aircrafts), so if foreign students start going to other universities, as they already have started to do, then in the end the pace of development in the US will slow, and if anything, other states will catch up technologically faster.

Besides, even access to good tech is a secondary factor of military strength. How much you spend is number one.

	21-05-2005 09:26									#11
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm Did you know that "sensitive" topics included mechanical enginering , electronical engineering , and Comp. Sci. ?

LMAO!

What's next, basket weaving?

Another thing is number of Chinese students going to the US has been declining sharply in the recent years. They go to Eurocom universities or ::shudder:: Chinese ones instead.

	21-05-2005 10:52									#12
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Cheers to another foolish policy!

	21-05-2005 11:11									#13
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The clerical workers' union is really going to flip out when this starts being implemented - they're already underpaid and striking every other semester.

	21-05-2005 15:53									#14
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Two of my first years are going abroad to study next year, one in the US, the other in Canadia. They told me that they feel like their wasting their time in college in China. I told them not to worry, all the students here feel like that.

Given the rising number of cases of foreign (mostly Chinese) students and workers who skip back to their country after stealing technical information, future patents, and other such things, I'm not surprised this is happening. Whether it will be benefinicial or not remains to be seen.

Meanwhile, students are still getting high priority in visa applications.

	21-05-2005 18:03									#15
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So US universities are now having practicals on building nuclear weapons and developing biological weapons? Interesting...

In reality, this sounds like more stupidity...

	21-05-2005 18:12									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison So US universities are now having practicals on building nuclear weapons and developing biological weapons? Interesting...

See what you missed by not finishing your degree over here?

	21-05-2005 18:13									#17
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I know - I could be sat here now, small finger in my mouth, bribing the UN to the tune of $100bn whilst drilling a nuke to the centre of the earth. Bad career move on my behalf

	21-05-2005 18:24									#18
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Curbs rhymes with turds.

	21-05-2005 18:32									#19
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No it doesn't...

	21-05-2005 19:16									#20
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Whatever.