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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Three weeks, no interviews, one rejuection letter.

quote:
OBJECTIVE Find a challenging position where my broad experience
would be put to good use.


EXPERIENCE Caschem, Bayonne, NJ (hired through Lab Support,
Piscataway, NJ)
Quality Control Technician, August 2000 to March 2005

Tested in process, final product, and raw material samples to
assure that quality specs were met, as sole technician on shift. Also
did R&D and special testing as required.
Standardized titrants as needed. Calibrated and maintained an
assortment of laboratory equipment, including viscometers, specific
gravity meters, analytical balances, and Karl Fisher titrators.
Maintained in process and final sample archives.

International Technidyne Corporation, Edison, NJ (via Lab
Support, Piscataway, NJ)
Quality Assurance Coordinator, August 1998 to December 1999

Ensured the proper and timely conclusion of all instrument and
incision device complaints.
Assembled ISO compliant documentation for new products.
Coordinated different departments to ensure the smooth operation of the
complaint system.
Trended complaint data to find problem areas and recommend possible
solutions.

Lipton, Englewood Cliffs, NJ (via Lab Support, Elmwood Park NJ)
Spec Scientist, May 1998 to July 1998
Culinary (Sauces) Division, Quality Systems Group


Evaluated and entered formulation data for Ragu, Five Brothers,
and other assorted pasta sauces into the Xspec database system.
Assisted in the composition of a user’s manual for Xspec.
Created new specifications.

Instrumentation Laboratories, Orangeburg, NY (via Lab Support,
White Plains, NY)
Data Analyst, March 1998 to May 1998

Interpreted, entered, and correlated raw data for use in
automation of a freeze-drying process for blood products.
Created automated spreadsheets and graphs for use in tracking the
quality of blood gas testing reagents.

Wyeth Ayerst Lederle, Pearl River, NY (via Lab Support, Elmwood
Park, NJ)
Technical Writer, November 1997 to March 1998
esilederle Formulation Group

Composed Study Plans, Study Results, SOIs, and Interim Reports.
Transcribed Memoranda. PC support for Formulations Group.
Developed Presentations
Created standard forms for documents.

Nabisco, East Hanover, NJ (via Lab Support, Elmwood Park, NJ)
Research Technician, August 1996 to October, 1997
SPC division, Dry Mix section. Responsibilities included

Compounded and tested product samples and prototypes.
Prepared product for analytical, micro, and shelf life studies.
Set up and ran showings and in-company sensory tests.
Ran shelf life studies and certain analytical procedures.

Merck, Rahway, NJ (via Manpower Technical Services, East
Brunswick, NJ).
Chemical Technician, March 1995 to March 1996

Prepared samples ranging from 1 mg to several kg from
collection of over 300,000 drugs and drug candidates. Handled
sensitive compounds.
Handled hazardous compounds.
Maintained inventory.

Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Tutor, Fall 1993 to Fall 1994

Instructed students in chemistry, geology, and accounting.
Appraised computer teaching programs.
Trained other tutors.

Hardman, Inc., Belleville, NJ
Machine Operator Summers 1987 to 1991:

Operated and maintained packaging machines.
Operated forklifts.
Assisted in compounding epoxies, urethanes, and butyl rubbers.
Ran viscosity tests.

EDUCATION Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Majored in Geology (incomplete)
Minors in Chemistry, Physics, and Accounting.
Graduate level courses in Geology


SPECIAL SKILLS Chemistry: Experienced in using lab equipment
including analytical balances, penetrometers, Brookfield viscometers,
pH meters, FTIR, NIR, and UV spectrometers, GCs, Hunter Lab Scan II
Colorimeters, Sieve Analysis (ROTAP), Anton Paar density meters,
Mettler Karl Fisher titrators, and an assortment of wet chemistry and
other laboratory procedures, including but not limited to acid value,
hydroxyl value, saponification number, unsaponifiable matter, iodine
value, %soap, %NCO, % volatiles, melt point (capillary and drop), gel
time (dry stick and Brookfield), and heavy metals.

Computer: Uses MS Word and MS Excel regularly, have used PowerPoint
and Access on occasion. Some experience with Paint Shop Pro and
Photoshop. Learns new software quickly. Builds own computers.

General: Basic mechanical, electrical, and carpentry skills. Basic
first aid skills. Experienced with forklifts, hand jacks, powerjacks,
drum dollies and hoists.


CERTIFICATIONS Nationally certified by the College Reading and
Learning Association as a tutor.

References are available on request.


The basic form hasn't changed since I pout it together back in the early ninties, and it's always worked before.

It also looks much nicer in it's native format.

Any suggestions?

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What did the reject letter say?

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I think you may have too many jobs listed there. Espeically the ones where you were only there a few weeks. But I'm not a recruiter, so don't necessairly take my word for it

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Rejection letters suck because they rarely give the real reason, if any reason at all. "We decided to go with someone else, thanks and good luck." A postcard with the word 'No' is what companies seem to be moving towards.

I'm too lazy to read your whole resume, but your objective is too vague. It can make you sound desperate to take anything. If it was more specific you sound more focused and goal-oriented, IMO. It also makes it easier for the HR person rather than a "Guess what I am/want?" objective.

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you concentrate too much imo on the stuff you did.

you write so much about the treest that you can't identify the forest


instead of describing that you filled out excell sheets and calculated this and that, your should write a proper job description - laboratory assistant, calculations officer - what ever.
then add things that descrbie your job: formulated and executed measurements, wrote procedures, did Q&A, wrote manuals.

You should also mention skills and not just projects, such as:
- work under pressure and short time delivery
- good people skilles
- multitasking
- leading a project from planning to execution, and results assessment.


most of the special skills you mention are **** that you are expected to either know or learn on the fly.

imagine you'd write: "skilled with writing using pen, pencils and chalk".

instead you should write: - wide array of experience in handling light and heavy lab instruments - wide experience in handling unique substances - large experience in planning and executing unique procedures and later assessing the results and process quality...

whatever.


btw, most of what i wrote would be an inexact description as i only quickly skimmed this long long file.

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I've found (from employer's perspective) and had this echoed by recruiters that "objectives" are just so much wasted space.

What occurs to me is that prior to this last job, you had lots of short term jobs and then big gaps in hiring. Since you're in the initial screening phase, people don't care to sort out why, they just look at maybe the top ten or twenty of 100 or 200 resumes, and look for reasons to cull the rest.

I'd eliminate some of the prior jobs, figure out something to explain the gaps, and maybe consolidate your earlier experience to a functional blurb.

Depending on the field, a lot of resumes are sorted automatically, so incorporating acronyms and buzzwords helps, even if it's in a skills and qualifications section.

I don't know how different your job market is from San Diego, but three weeks is a short time. People I know who've recently been hired have generally been hired for jobs they first responded to three and fourt months earlier. Most companies, in three weeks, they haven't even finished gathering resumes, and sometimes, they start the process before they even have official approval to add the position, so they have people applying for jobs that don't yet (and may not ever) exist.

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quote:
A postcard with the word 'No' is what companies seem to be moving towards.




quote:
Most companies, in three weeks, they haven't even finished gathering resumes, and sometimes, they start the process before they even have official approval to add the position, so they have people applying for jobs that don't yet (and may not ever) exist.


I've been looking for over 3 months now.

MM posted this at CG, and I editted it some. Here's a copy of that post:

Here's what I would do:



quote:
OBJECTIVE: To obtain a position as a [INSERT POSITION TITLE HERE] that would utilize my 10+ years of experience testing and analyzing analytical assays as well as my understanding of data management systems.

EXPERIENCE CasChem, Bayonne, NJ
Quality Control Technician, August 2000 to March 2005

Performed in-process, final product, and raw material assays to assure product conformity to quality specifications
Supported Research and Development efforts on an ongoing basis
Calibrated and maintained an assortment of laboratory equipment, including viscometers, specific
gravity meters, analytical balances, and Karl Fisher titration devices.
Maintained in process and final sample archives.

International Technidyne Corporation, Edison, NJ
Quality Assurance Coordinator, August 1998 to December 1999

Ensured the proper and timely conclusion of all instrument and incision device complaints.
Compiled documentation for new products according to ISO quality standards
Coordinated interdepartmental communication to ensure the smooth operation of complaint systems.
Trended complaint data to find problem areas and recommend possible solutions.

Lab Support, Various Locations
Various Positions, March 1995 to July 1998

Correlated, evaluated and data based formulation data for brand name food, pharmaceutical, and blood products
Developed and/or Wrote new product specifications, process documentation, process monitoring plans, study plans, SOIs, Interim Reports, and Presentations
Compounded and tested product samples and prototypes
Supplied computer support and training

Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Tutor, Fall 1993 to Fall 1994

Instructed students in chemistry, geology, and accounting.
Appraised computer-teaching programs.
Training of other tutors

SKILLS General chemistry experience, hazardous and sensitive material handling, working knowledge of lab equipment including analytical balances, penetrometers, Brookfield viscometers, pH meters, FTIR, NIR, and UV spectrometers, GCs, Hunter Lab Scan II
Colorimeters, Sieve Analysis (ROTAP), Anton Paar density meters, Mettler Karl Fisher titrators, and an assortment of wet chemistry and other laboratory procedures, including but not limited to acid value, hydroxyl value, saponification number, unsaponifiable matter, iodine value, %soap, %NCO, % volatiles, melt point (capillary and drop), gel time (dry stick and Brookfield), and heavy metals.

Computer: MSOffice, World Wide Web programs, Xspec, [LIST AS MANY RELEVENT SW PROGRAMS YOU CAN THINK OF THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO USE, OR HAVE USED IN THE PAST] various other software, competent with computer hardware

CERTIFICATIONS Nationally certified by the College Reading and
Learning Association as a tutor.

EDUCATION Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Major in Geology (3 of 4 years completed)
Minor in Chemistry

References are available on request.





Made your OBJECTIVE a little more precise, removed how you got the positions you have had, changed the wording on some of the job duties, removed some duties that would be implied, consolodated temp positions, removed some irrelevant jobs, added some job responsibilities to SKILLS, removed GENERAL SKILLS (could be listed as Hobbies/Interests), removed all minors but Chemistry, moved education to the end since it is not what we want to emphasize, changed "incomplete" to "3 of 4" to make it more positive and makes it appear that you want to finish if given the opportunity...

When you look at a job posting I would recommend identifying keywords and making sure they are in your resume IF you have said experience.

There's probably more you can do. You have a lot to do with quality issues, maybe add that to the objective.

---

I don't think that the objective is a waste, but it can be if too long and not to the point. I even put a "profile" section in my resume, which is really just a way to throw in all the buzz words.

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Aren't people in many areas moving towards a litany of "successes" rather than credentials? Depends on your area, I guess.

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I work in QC, Dan --- most of my "successes" involved delaying or stopping $50,000 product shipments.

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Just realized I can upload the document here.

I'm going to incorporate Japher's suggestions (thanks again!)

MtG, you're right, it's a bit early to panic, but I'm without income at this point, so it's better to get everything right the first time around.

Attachment: strippedresume april 2005.doc
This has been downloaded 4 time(s).

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My $2:16 cents for what they are worth, is that your resume seemed to me to read more like a position description. Instead of what you achieved in those roles. An employment consultant pointed the same thing out to me. I have attached my resume, sans contact, present job and personal details, so you can see where I am coming from. Also use alot of punchy language and don't be afriad of building yourself up.

When I have hired people previously, I really look at what they achieved in their positions, then what they did, and finally where they went to school.

Hope it helps.

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Experiences drawn from my time working with the VP of Haldane and Associates, here in Columbia

* Provide numbers. The example you gave just a minute ago is a beauty! most of my "successes" involved delaying or stopping $50,000 product shipments. FANTASTIC! How many? How much total money did YOUR fast action and keen eye save the company? Talk it up!

* Likewise, the bit about coordinating between several departments...how many departments (and, if it won't eat up too much real estate, what were they?). Did your position as liaison between these groups facilitate savings for the company? If so, how much? (estimates are okay too, provided you have the support of your superiors when they call to check!)

* Assembled ISO docs...too weak....did you actually do any of the writing, or just put the docs together from existing stuffs? If you wrote, for how many products?
Personally, I'd lose line items like (handled hazardous materials and took inventory, and mention them in the "other skills" segment (Familiar with HazMat procedures & Inventory Control Systems...or something like that).

Bullet points are your friends...put your best skills in hard-hitting bullet points to draw the employer's eye to them, and to make room for that, ditch everything not directly related to the job you're applying for.

Carpentery skills, for example...very handy, but unless you're applying for a job where they might get used, toss them and make room for job-relevant notations. During the interview process, you can certainly bring up your non-job-relevant skills, and in fact, this is a good way to build rapport, but keep the resume focused *specifically* on the job that you're trying for.

Also, during the interview, adopt some of the same mannerisms as the interviewee without being obvious about it (practice this with your friends first!)....people like hiring people like them....not a surefire "in" but it'll give you a leg-up.

If you need more, PM me!

-=Vel=-

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PS: During salary negotiations, NEVER play the first card...if they ask how much you're thinking (and most good interviewers WILL), stall them and do this EXACTLY:

1) Tell them that you did not come to the interview prepared to discuss salary.....

2) As you are saying this, grab your pen and meet the interviewee's eyes. "but what ballpark were you thinking?"

3) MOST IMPORTANT THING after this is to BE QUIET!!!! Keep your dang mouth shut and maintain eye contact. Be prepared to write...keep that pen poised over the paper....then wait.

USE the silence.

People hate silences, and the interviewee WILL fill it.

Oh...and try not to choke when you hear the answer...

-=Vel=-

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Color, and lots of it:


OBJECTIVE Find a challenging position where my broad experience
would be put to good use.


EXPERIENCE Caschem, Bayonne, NJ (hired through Lab Support,
Piscataway, NJ)
Quality Control Technician, August 2000 to March 2005

Tested in process, final product, and raw material samples to
assure that quality specs were met, as sole technician on shift. Also
did R&D and special testing as required.
Standardized titrants as needed. Calibrated and maintained an
assortment of laboratory equipment, including viscometers, specific
gravity meters, analytical balances, and Karl Fisher titrators.
Maintained in process and final sample archives.

International Technidyne Corporation, Edison, NJ (via Lab
Support, Piscataway, NJ)
Quality Assurance Coordinator, August 1998 to December 1999

Ensured the proper and timely conclusion of all instrument and
incision device complaints.
Assembled ISO compliant documentation for new products.
Coordinated different departments to ensure the smooth operation of the
complaint system.
Trended complaint data to find problem areas and recommend possible
solutions.

Lipton, Englewood Cliffs, NJ (via Lab Support, Elmwood Park NJ)
Spec Scientist, May 1998 to July 1998
Culinary (Sauces) Division, Quality Systems Group


Evaluated and entered formulation data for Ragu, Five Brothers,
and other assorted pasta sauces into the Xspec database system.
Assisted in the composition of a user’s manual for Xspec.
Created new specifications.

Instrumentation Laboratories, Orangeburg, NY (via Lab Support,
White Plains, NY)
Data Analyst, March 1998 to May 1998

Interpreted, entered, and correlated raw data for use in
automation of a freeze-drying process for blood products.
Created automated spreadsheets and graphs for use in tracking the
quality of blood gas testing reagents.

Wyeth Ayerst Lederle, Pearl River, NY (via Lab Support, Elmwood
Park, NJ)
Technical Writer, November 1997 to March 1998
esilederle Formulation Group

Composed Study Plans, Study Results, SOIs, and Interim Reports.
Transcribed Memoranda. PC support for Formulations Group.
Developed Presentations
Created standard forms for documents.

Nabisco, East Hanover, NJ (via Lab Support, Elmwood Park, NJ)
Research Technician, August 1996 to October, 1997
SPC division, Dry Mix section. Responsibilities included

Compounded and tested product samples and prototypes.
Prepared product for analytical, micro, and shelf life studies.
Set up and ran showings and in-company sensory tests.
Ran shelf life studies and certain analytical procedures.

Merck, Rahway, NJ (via Manpower Technical Services, East
Brunswick, NJ).
Chemical Technician, March 1995 to March 1996

Prepared samples ranging from 1 mg to several kg from
collection of over 300,000 drugs and drug candidates. Handled
sensitive compounds.
Handled hazardous compounds.
Maintained inventory.

Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Tutor, Fall 1993 to Fall 1994

Instructed students in chemistry, geology, and accounting.
Appraised computer teaching programs.
Trained other tutors.

Hardman, Inc., Belleville, NJ
Machine Operator Summers 1987 to 1991:

Operated and maintained packaging machines.
Operated forklifts.
Assisted in compounding epoxies, urethanes, and butyl rubbers.
Ran viscosity tests.

EDUCATION Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Majored in Geology (incomplete)
Minors in Chemistry, Physics, and Accounting.
Graduate level courses in Geology


SPECIAL SKILLS Chemistry: Experienced in using lab equipment
including analytical balances, penetrometers, Brookfield viscometers,
pH meters, FTIR, NIR, and UV spectrometers, GCs, Hunter Lab Scan II
Colorimeters, Sieve Analysis (ROTAP), Anton Paar density meters,
Mettler Karl Fisher titrators, and an assortment of wet chemistry and
other laboratory procedures, including but not limited to acid value,
hydroxyl value, saponification number, unsaponifiable matter, iodine
value, %soap, %NCO, % volatiles, melt point (capillary and drop), gel
time (dry stick and Brookfield), and heavy metals.

Computer: Uses MS Word and MS Excel regularly, have used PowerPoint
and Access on occasion. Some experience with Paint Shop Pro and
Photoshop. Learns new software quickly. Builds own computers.

General: Basic mechanical, electrical, and carpentry skills. Basic
first aid skills. Experienced with forklifts, hand jacks, powerjacks,
drum dollies and hoists.


CERTIFICATIONS Nationally certified by the College Reading and
Learning Association as a tutor.

References are available on request.

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On my computer, your resume opened up with everything in Times New Roman (12 point for your name, 10 point for everything else). You also have tons of whitespace on teh left and really crowded space on thw right. If that's how it really looks, then, from a purely visual point-of-view, your resume is (please don't take this personally) really ugly. And while that's a pretty superficial comment, the fact is that the decision to fish your resume out of the pile of 100s that the company has received will be based on some pretty superficial things. Even if you can't lay it out better, you must know somebody with graphic design skills; call on them.

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I agree that you need to tailor your position to the exact kinda job that you are looking for.

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I agree that you need to tailor your position to the exact kinda job that you are looking for.



I agree.

When I was looking, I did a new resume for ecery job I applied for. I've been working full time for over 10 years so I have a fair bit of material to use and its only a matter of stressing the important stuff.

Note my resume NEVER exceeds 2 pages and starts when I became a lawyer

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I don't have the time to look through it carefully, but...

Cut the objective part out. If you tailor your resume to each job you apply for, it's useless. If you don't, it only acts to exclude you from some of the jobs you may be eligible, so it's worse than useless.

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You live in Kansas and aren't a Kansan. Them folks are suspicious of outsiders. More importantly, it's a much smaller job market. I hardly got interviews at all when I was in Jax, but as soon as I moved to FtL, I couldn't beat interviewers off with a stick.

BTW, your objective sucks. Just toss it altogether. Interviewers don't give a damn about objectives.

Move your skills and certs to the top.

Considering your geographic disadvantages, you may want to hire a professional to do your resume. I do mine (I'm a designer after all), but I know people who've had theirs done, and they were really impressed by the difference in quality. Your resume is effectively an advertisement, and you wouldn't produce your own ads, would you?

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PS: During salary negotiations, NEVER play the first card...if they ask how much you're thinking (and most good interviewers WILL), stall them and do this EXACTLY:

1) Tell them that you did not come to the interview prepared to discuss salary.....

2) As you are saying this, grab your pen and meet the interviewee's eyes. "but what ballpark were you thinking?"


Frequently, they will continue to press, and after the third of fourth time asking, you have to say something. Tell them you are willing to consider any reasonable offer.

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Thanks for the advice, guys.

Lancer:

Here's the new, stripped down resume:

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superdak@bellatlantic.net

OBJECTIVE
To obtain a position as a QC Chemist that would utilize my 7+ years of experience testing and analyzing analytical assays as well as my understanding of data management systems.

EXPERIENCE
Caschem, Bayonne, NJ (hired through Lab Support, Piscataway, NJ)
Quality Control Technician, August 2000 to March 2005

* Tested in process, final product, and raw material samples to assure that quality specs were met, as sole technician on shift. Also did R&D and special testing as required.
* Standardized titrants as needed.
* Calibrated and maintained an assortment of laboratory equipment, including viscometers, specific gravity meters, analytical balances, and Karl Fisher titrators.
* Maintained in process and final sample archives.

International Technidyne Corporation, Edison, NJ
Quality Assurance Coordinator, August 1998 to December 1999

* Ensured the proper and timely conclusion of all instrument and incision device complaints.
* Compiled documentation for new products according to ISO quality standards
* Coordinated interdepartmental communication to ensure the smooth operation of complaint systems.
* Trended complaint data to find problem areas and recommend possible solutions.

Lab Support, Various Locations
Various Positions, March 1995 to July 1998

* Correlated, evaluated and data based formulation data for brand name food, pharmaceutical, and blood products
* Developed and/or Wrote new product specifications, process documentation, process monitoring plans, study plans, SOIs, Interim Reports, and Presentations
* Compounded and tested product samples and prototypes
* Supplied computer support and training

Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Tutor, Fall 1993 to Fall 1994

* Instructed students in chemistry, geology, and
accounting.
* Appraised computer teaching programs.
* Trained other tutors.

Hardman, Inc., Belleville, NJ
Machine Operator Summers 1987 to 1991:

* Operated and maintained packaging machines.
* Operated forklifts.
* Assisted in compounding epoxies, urethanes, and butyl rubbers.
* Ran viscosity tests.

EDUCATION
Rutgers University, Newark College of Arts and Sciences
Major in Geology (3 of 4 years completed)
Minor in Chemistry.
Graduate level courses in Geology

SPECIAL SKILLS
Chemistry: General chemistry experience, hazardous and sensitive material handling, working knowledge of lab equipment including analytical balances, penetrometers, Brookfield viscometers, pH meters, FTIR, NIR, and UV spectrometers, GCs, Hunter Lab Scan II Colorimeters, Sieve Analysis (ROTAP), Anton Paar density meters, Mettler Karl Fisher titrators, and an assortment of wet chemistry and other laboratory procedures, including but not limited to acid value, hydroxyl value, saponification number, unsaponifiable matter, iodine value, %soap, %NCO, % volatiles, melt point (capillary and drop), gel time (dry stick and Brookfield), and heavy metals.

Computer: MSOffice, MSAccess, Paint Shop Pro, Photoshop, Xspec, RenCS, Assorted Internet programs. Learns new software quickly. Builds and maintains own computers.


CERTIFICATIONS
Nationally certified by the College Reading and Learning Association as a tutor.
References are available on request.


...and here's a cover letter I just composed and sent:

quote:
Dear Sir or Madam:

I read with interest your advertisement on careerbuilder.com for the position of QC Chemist I. I believe that I would make a fine match for the position, given my experience and skills.

During my years working for Caschem, I was in charge of my shift (3rd), and responsible for all aspects of quality control on that shift. I had to insure that the lab was properly maintained, that incoming materials were dealt with, that qc results on ongoing batches were quickly and accurately reported, and that finished products were tested and approved -- or disapproved -- in a timely manner. If a $40,000 shipment was not up to spec, I made sure it did not go out the door.

I enjoyed the many experiences I had while working as a contractor for lab Support. In particular, my year as a QA coordinator for ITC gave me a lot of insight into ISO documentation preparation, as well as working with customer complaints and ensuring the proper and timely handling of customer issues between various departments. Also of note was the time I spent as a technical writer for Wyeth Ayerst-Lederle in Pearl River, NY, where I composed internal reports and FDA documentation for the esiLEDERLE Formulations Group.

As you can see from my resume, I am skilled in many kinds of wet chemical and instrument analysis. The majority of the procedures I did at Caschem were buret work; the only autotitrators in the lab were the KF machines. Caschem has a very broad range of products, covering oils, copolymers, surfactants, catalysts, and others, and most of them have ended up on my bench. I was also the "go-to guy" for the more isoteric tests, which weren't seen more than once or twice a year, due to my talent for picking up new tests quickly.

Let me finish by saying I am a motivated, hard worker, willing to work any shift, any holiday, any overtime. When a three million pound oil barge came in at 02:00 on July 4th or New Year's Eve, I was always the one standing ready to receive the sample.

I do hope to hear from you soon regarding this position.

Sincerely,


Whatcha think?

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  Old Post 26-05-2005 01:41
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Cover Letter is too long; 1 paragraph describing your interest in the job, 1 paragraph describing your skills that makes you best suited for the job, 1 paragraph reiterating your interest and skills... Sincrely, MM (make sure to include your contact information at the end of the cover letter)

I would still get rid of the Hardman job, but do as you wish

I would also get rid of the "hired through lab support" bit too, unless there is a reason you want that there

besides that it looks fine to me

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Oops. I forgot about that "hired through Lab Support line.

I like the Hardman job because it shows that I have some idea of what's going on out in the plant, and I was hoping it would be a selling point when applying to a QC position. Do you think I'm off on that?

I figured I'd use the cover letter to add spice to the package, since the resume is already highlighting my pertinent skills, but is pretty dry reading.

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Do you think I'm off on that?


Yes, I don't think any screener is going to see that and want to interview you because of it.

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Okay, I'll drop it next iteration.

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Get rid of the objective, seriously. They don't care.

 
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