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Would you ever download yourself? (Time out:0 days after 24-05-2005, 06:34)
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Pyrodrew is offline Pyrodrew
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Death Could Be Averted By 'Downloaded Brains', British Futurologist Says
London (AFP) May 22, 2005
Death could become a thing of the past by the mid-21st century as computer technology becomes sophisticated enough for the contents of a brain to be "downloaded" onto a supercomputer, according to a leading British futurologist.
However, he told the Observer newspaper on Sunday, this technology might be expensive enough to remain the preserve of the rich for a decade or two more.

Among other eyebrow-raising predictions by Ian Pearson, head of the futurology unit at British telecommunications giant BT, is the prospect of computer systems being able to feel emotions.

This could eventually involve such things as aeroplanes being programmed to be even more terrified of crashing than their passengers, meaning they would do whatever possible to stay airborne.


While the predictions might sound outlandish, they were merely the product of extrapolations drawn from the current rate at which computers are evolving, Pearson said in an interview with the newspaper.

"If you draw the timelines, realistically by 2050 we would expect to be able to download your mind into a machine, so when you die it's not a major career problem," he said.

"If you're rich enough then by 2050 it's feasible. If you're poor you'll probably have to wait until 2075 or 2080 when it's routine.

"We are very serious about it. That's how fast this technology is moving: 45 years is a hell of a long time in IT."

As an example of the advances being made, Pearson noted that Sony's new PlayStation 3 computer games console is 35 times as powerful as the model it replaced, and in terms of processing is "one percent as powerful as a human brain".

In views which those of a religious persuasion might find hard to handle, Pearson said the next computing goal would be to replicate consciousness.

"Consciousness is just another sense, effectively, and that's what we're trying to design on a computer," he said.

"Not everyone agrees, but it's my conclusion that it's possible to make a conscious computer with superhuman levels of intelligence before 2020."

One of the "primary reasons" for such work would be to give computers emotions, Pearson said.

"If I'm on an aeroplane I want the computer to be more terrified of crashing than I am so it does everything to stay in the air until it's supposed to be on the ground."


emotional computers

We know immortality can never happen... so what would you choose if this and death were the only options?

The article from the Observer for Guardian fans...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_n...1489635,00.html
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You could have a conversation with your strawberry yogurt before you eat it.'


DIE STRAWBERRY YOGURT! DIE!!!

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While the predictions might sound outlandish, they were merely the product of extrapolations drawn from the current rate at which computers are evolving, Pearson said in an interview with the newspaper.




And from reading any number of science fiction books written in the past 20 years.

JohnT is offline JohnT

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Like Gateway, by Frederick Pohl.

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How, pray tell, would you read the contents of someone's mind? The brain wasn't designed to be read, there aren't any ports or jacks to plug into. It was meant to run a body, it's primary comm channels are to the mouth and hands, which unfortunately are very slow.

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I can't take this seriously.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Sounds like BS.

And besides, even if your brain could be downloaded onto a computer, I don't think it would be the same thing at all. It wouldn't be you, just a copy of your brain that is now on your computer.

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Can we get the affinity gene too?

Sounds like this was taken straight outta the 'Night's Dawn Trilogy' by Peter F Hamilton.

Bring on Edenism

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Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

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WHERE ARE THE FLYING CARS???


MOLLER???????????????

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I can't take this seriously.


This is Apolyton, all threads are to be taken seriously.

How else do we hope to live biologically between the ages of 20 and 25 for centuries as suggested in the Immortality thread?

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Ian Pearson, head of the futurology unit at British telecommunications giant BT


I bet someone in his unit predicted this would happen. It's only a matter of time before they build The Matrix.

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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Does anybody know where I can find info on the progress of NASA's "Highway in the Sky" program?


It was used during the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta and is supposedly being used by some commercial aircraft right now. When completed, it's supposed to let private citizens buy aircraft like the skycar, without having a pilot's license.

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"Would You Be Downloading On Your Death Bed? "

Uploading actually.

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I'm trying to figure out how to upload my brain and then download it into a lesbian.

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"Would You Be Downloading On Your Death Bed? "

Uploading actually.


Ummm... I didn't want to contradict the title of the article.

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I'm trying to figure out how to upload my brain and then download it into a lesbian.


Self-inflicted multiple orgasms

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I can just see my brain being hacked and having some 14 year old kid feed me gay porn. Or series of goatse or tubgirl pictures.

no thanks.

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I didn't read all the replies, but given the overwhelming grey matter that exists here, I know someone brought it up, and so will only concur; the thought of, say, an airplane, having a truly depressing day, and feeling the need to end it all is, well, it's distressing, to say the least.

Where does it end?
Driving to some destination in what you assumed was a well-balanced vehicle, only to find that it had severe emotional crisis in the works.
So you commute by public transportation instead.
Now, I don't know, but to me, if I was vehicle of transport, and a mass transit at that, carrying all that gross tonnage back and forth with little change, I believe I'd lose it.

What's the answer? Where do we do from here?

We haven't even discussed cash registers. ATM's, banking facility drive-throughs, for instance.

Bad deal.

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Giving computer's emotions is stupid. As for uploading myself, I don't see an awful lot of point. It's not like you could do much except sit around and read the internet. It would be like the whole of existence suddenly became LiveJournal - just disembodied consciousnesses exchanging facile pleasantries for ever. I think maybe I'd upload myself just to see what it was like, find my prediction dissapointingly accurate, and request deletion. Although possibly only once the courts had decided the legality of deleting someone's personality at their own request.

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Wouldn't you want to be uploading? Kinda mean, downloading someone else's consciousness into your mind just as you're about to die.


But to answer your question; yes, I would download. Serves the bugger right for thinking he can escape death.

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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Sounds like BS.

And besides, even if your brain could be downloaded onto a computer, I don't think it would be the same thing at all. It wouldn't be you, just a copy of your brain that is now on your computer.


For all I know, every night I die in my sleep and God loads a copy of my personality into my head before morning. If I'm a copy but I feel like me, can trace a direct line of continuation to me, and am only available me around, for all intents and purposes, I am me.

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Hell ya, I'd do it.

What have you got to lose? Your life?

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Your death.

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No big loss, then.

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The first death is always the hardest. After a while you kinda stop noticing.

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No big loss, then.

You ever tried living forever? Huh? You mortals are all the same. You'll be pleading for death within the first thousand years.

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Now it's science fiction, when this becomes close to happening, it's gonna make stem cells and evolution look like a walk in the park.

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For all I know, every night I die in my sleep and God loads a copy of my personality into my head before morning. If I'm a copy but I feel like me, can trace a direct line of continuation to me, and am only available me around, for all intents and purposes, I am me.


whoa....

I won't be able to fall asleep tonight.

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I can just see my brain being hacked and having some 14 year old kid feed me gay porn. Or series of goatse or tubgirl pictures.

no thanks.




I didn't think of that.

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