03-06-2005 02:58									#31
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Oh. Either it was the alignment, or I simply didn't have the money. And to get money, IIRC, I had to go kill small critters...

	03-06-2005 06:26									#32
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Dissident- don't worry about the tech thing- it's impossible and a BAD idea to be good at both magic and tech in that game.

As a side note and warning to all- even though dresses provide AC 2 or 3... and you can buy them for men, men refuse to wear them in the character creation- they're a waste of money- as I discovered to my chagrin after creating: Sir Rodgar Throckmorton... an amazingly flamboyant character in a victorian-age setting, no doubt.

quote: If you hire the ogre in the pub, the bridge is no problem at all.

Some of us were too slow and stingy with $$$ to think of that.

	03-06-2005 12:19									#33
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Some of us were too slow and stingy with $$$ to think of that.

There you go. There were several ways if you tried hard enough.

	03-06-2005 22:52									#34
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The only problem with the bridge is ytou shouldn't try to get through unless your character is a fighter and/or you have the half-ogre to help. But there are many ways to get through the gate. By talking, paying, fighting, sneaking, and more. Brute force is certainly the hardest way, but a good grenade or dynamite can do wonders.

	03-06-2005 23:18									#35
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This is an excellent game. There was talk of a sequal at one point, but nothing ever came of it.

	04-06-2005 01:30									#36
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I'm having a hell of a time downloading the latest patch. File planet doesn't work. It keeps saying I need to log in, even though I am logged in. I tried this with both internet explorer and firefox. I even tried gameplanet, I can't even connect to their ftp server.

	04-06-2005 01:36									#37
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edit: I think I got it. I wasn't clicking on the free servers for file planet.

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	05-06-2005 00:42									#38
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hmm, I don't think I can complete some of these quests without the ability to even pick up an technological item. Can I even beat the game without being able to pick up these items?

I don't like that. I may have to restart with a different character.

	05-06-2005 00:50									#39
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You can win the game without any technological item. In fact, when you become really good at magic, those technological things are better avoided because you will systematically fumble if you try to use them.
What kind of character did you make?

	05-06-2005 13:10									#40
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this character is more melee orientated. He's a half orc. But I didn't make him dumb. He has an intelligence of 11.

should I raise my intelligence any higher? I want to make sure I have access too as many quests as I can.

The only annoying thing is his charisma is 2. so his initial reaction is horrible. But with the higher intelligence he seems to be able to talk his way into a better disposition.

	05-06-2005 13:36									#41
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he's a pretty good character. My other character didn't hit much in melee. He pretty much sucked. He was supposed to be a fighter/mage. But I think it's probably better to do one or the other.

	05-06-2005 14:18									#42
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Is this character based on anyone we know?

	05-06-2005 16:32									#43
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Intelligence of 11 is already huge if you don't plan for a tech-oriented character. Before the bridge, it seems extremely high for any kind of character in my opinion. A charisma of 2 means he'll have trouble getting any henchman beyond Virgil, and trouble talking his way out of the bridge. So you still have to either fight your way out, pay or do something else the bandits might tell you. Fighting will be hard considering the points you spent on intelligence were not spent on dex, str, hit points or throw/melee/dodge skills.
Did you get any magic items or tech items (explosives) that can help you?

	06-06-2005 02:06									#44
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I'm kinda sorta to the bridge you guys are talking about I think. Basically you have to clear the bandits out. I'm waiting until I'm a little higher level to do that.

It should be notied I'm a trollspawn or whatever. My strength, dexterity, and constitution are all 11. And my melee is 3 (and I'm trained as an apprentice in it). i'm also an aprrentice in throwing. and I think I have 1 grenade in my inventory.

I haven't had much a chance to play, as I've been having problems with my A/C unit, now I'm having problems with my vehicle. Everything is going wrong at once it seems.

	06-06-2005 09:19									#45
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you can travel around the area that is blocked off on the map screen...from those random encounters you can level up quite well and every now and then you'll run into someone who will drop phat loot. AFter that bridge is easy.

	06-06-2005 17:27									#46
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great idea Apocalypse!

	12-06-2005 13:48									#47
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now I'm really stuck at this bridge. i got myself up to level 6, which seemed like a fairly high level. I was able to kill the main guy, but his 2 big buddies drain all my stamina with their hits, and subsequently kill Virgil and myself. I don't have enough pursuasion to try any other way. This battle is just hard.

	12-06-2005 14:21									#48
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Focus the henchmen?

	12-06-2005 14:22									#49
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You can always get it another way. Persuasion is only usefull if you want to get paid to pass the bridge. You may work for the thugs rather than fight them, or pay them (robbing the bank might help here, but then you'd rather hurry up a bit afterwards).
Grenades are great. If it's an explosive one, you will hurt an opponent a lot. If it's a stunning grenade you can get rid of 2 of them so you can hopefully kill the third one during that time. You may also try to use dynamite, but it's more tricky to get the opponents caught in the blast and not you, as they'll start fighting immediately. And of course Virgil is likely to get caught in the blast.
If grenades don't work, go buy some stuff at the gypsy. She probably has interesting stuff like a potion of speed. If she has one, buy it. Hitting two or three times as often will help you a lot. You can also buy some potions to regenerate stamina(since the ogres tend to stun rather than hurt) both for yourself and Virgil.

	12-06-2005 22:35									#50
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yeah the stunning hurts.

I forgot all about grenades. I think I have a couple of stun grenades.

	12-06-2005 22:54									#51
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hey I got it. It took me a couple of tries. The last time I threw an explosive grenade at one of the ogres and got him out of the fight quickly. then used my axe on the other ogre, and finally the thief.

the stun grenades didn't seem to work.

	12-06-2005 22:56									#52
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so I picked up this large leather armour, but they have abbreviations I'm not familiar with. What is NP and FR? I know AC is armour class and DR is damage reduction.

I'm not sure I can wear it anyways, since it is for large bodies and I'm a half orc which I believe is in the medium builds.

	12-06-2005 23:13									#53
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now I have to figure out what to do with all this junk I'm carrying. I never seem to have any inventory room. I'm carrying junk like railroad spikes, rusty daggers, some kind of coin. I have no idea what to do with this junk.

	13-06-2005 00:55									#54
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Sell it at a pawn shop, or throw it away in a trashcan.

	13-06-2005 02:40									#55
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I've made some decent progress. Though those folks in Dernholm sure go hostile on me at a moments notice. I've had to reload a few times. And that sir Garrick, I can't get anything out of him. I didn't get much done there. I'm in Blackroot right now.

	17-06-2005 22:18									#56
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NP = Noise Penalty, FR = Fire Resistance.
Just sell or don't pick up junk.
Junk stuff like railroad spikes are useful for some schematics if you play tech.

	18-06-2005 06:44									#57
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yeah, search in trashcans for cloths for molotov cocktails...that's the most useful thing in there usually.

	19-06-2005 07:46									#58
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Hmmm, this game has escaped my attention too. Seems to be fairly cheap, and it looks interesting.

quote: now I have to figure out what to do with all this junk I'm carrying. I never seem to have any inventory room. I'm carrying junk like railroad spikes, rusty daggers, some kind of coin. I have no idea what to do with this junk.

I'm an obsessive compulsive collector of junk in RPGs, for you never know when you might need something. I wish RPGs would limit the amount of stuff you can find, so when you did get something, it would seem more valuable. I'm playing Knights of the Old Republic at the moment, and 90% of all the junk I have is never used.

	19-06-2005 13:54									#59
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Thought you hated that great game? Did I convince you to look again?

	20-06-2005 07:23									#60
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quote: Thought you hated that great game? Did I convince you to look again?

I've been slogging through it to see what the fuss is about.