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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:23
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Originally posted by Oerdin
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1602568,00.html
Sorry to bust your bubble but Al Libbi was a nobody which the Bush Administration tried to pretend was a somebody.
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According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation. |
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He was in charge of the assasination attempts on Musharraf, which despite their failure, were very sophisticated hit attempts (at least one was done in the city that is the virtually the compoud of the Paki officer corps, and so probably involved serious penetration of the Pak military) and was strategically as important to AQ as anything else theyve done. Its hard to make sense of any claim that he wasnt in charge of operations in Pakistan which is where OBL and Zawahiri are. Now he may not have much authority over AQ elsewhere in the world, but then its not clear the AQ leadership in Pakistan (OBL and Zawahiri) are in sufficient communication to exert effective control over AQ outside of Pakistan/ Afghanistan.
Now tell me, if these unnamed sources dont think Al Libbi was number 3, who exactly do they think was (and is) the AQ number 3?
Of course some have said Saif el Adel is the real AQ number 3. Id be very interested if the Euro sources confirmed this. It would be very interesting, considering el Adels current location.
Last edited by lord of the mark on 27-05-2005 at 20:23
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:23
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from CSM
"Abu Farraj al-Libbi's one of the hard-core Al Qaeda members," says Bruce Hoffman, a terror expert at the RAND Corp. in Washington. "He's not as well-known to Americans as many of the 9/11-era Al Qaeda leaders. But since Al Qaeda's expulsion from Afghanistan, he has become an increasingly important player - stepping into the role vacated by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."
Mr. Libbi, whose capture Monday was made public only Wednesday, isn't considered to be as sophisticated or talented as Mr. Mohammed, who is credited with hatching the 9/11 plot and others, and who also was captured in Pakistan in 2003.
But after Al Qaeda was evicted from Afghanistan in 2001, Libbi allegedly traveled with Osama bin Laden, seeking refuge in the border region of Pakistan.
Since then, the Pakistani government has placed him on their top-six list of terrorists, accusing him of engineering several attacks, including two assassination attempts on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in December 2003.
Those attempts on Mr. Musharraf's life - in which 17 others died - came quite close, experts say, indicating that Libbi was an Al Qaeda up-and-comer with good command of intelligence, surveillance, and planning.
Musharraf himself named the Libyan as the chief suspect, the "mastermind" of the assassination attempts, and the government in 2004 placed an advertisement in Pakistani newspapers that showed Libbi dressed in a Western suit, with a trimmed beard. A reward of 20 million rupees (about $335,000) was offered at the time for any information that might lead to his capture.
"He's definitely an operator and a very important guy," says Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit'
Thats two named experts vs some unnamed experts. And Scheuer, author of Imperial Hubris, is no friend of the administration.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:23
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No more major attacks in the US since 9/11...
UBL just hasn't been pulled out of his spider hole yet.
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