30-05-2005 00:11									#1
	Will you play civ4 MP? Support Apolyton

I think I am going to try to do MP in civ4. It sounds like they're actually giving the game some good features for once in MP. Since it's on gamespy though that is a major downside.

	30-05-2005 02:10									#2
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What is this civ4 of which you speak?

	30-05-2005 02:22									#3
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why don't they do civ 2.5 . then we will all play.

	30-05-2005 05:15									#4
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I think I will buy it... Civ 2 is coming of age () and I skipped Civ 3...

Carolus

	30-05-2005 21:48									#5
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I skipped civ3 as well, horrible game. But it seems civ 4 has alot more to it. The fact that sid Meier isn't even involved in the development process is a big plus.

	30-05-2005 22:43									#6
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I'll buy it, even though I didn't like Civ III. If it sucks, I will continue playing Civ II

	31-05-2005 01:38									#7
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i also skipped civ III ...... will buy civ IV

i do have one question though .... about civ IV MP , will you still be able to connect with eachother without GS ? like in civ II ? just with an IP number ? i couldn't find an answer .......

	31-05-2005 03:07									#8
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I don't think there is a game out there that doesn't allow you to connect to each other through IP. I can't wait to play this game there are so many features and teamplay is going to be awesome. Finally they took some features from age of empires. I think they should create a recorded game option.

	31-05-2005 06:01									#9
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I hope they don't screw up Civ 4... Because it will be a couple of years until the next try... One key is, I guess, a good implementation of MP... That prolonged Civ 2's life immensely even though SP still is alive and kicking...

The reason I never bought Civ 3 was the bad "reviews" it got here at Apolyton by hardcore civers...

Perhaps the problem is that our expectations are too high? I don't think any future game can create the same sense of wonder and addiction that Civ 2 did for me when I first discovered it in early 1997...

Carolus

	31-05-2005 13:11									#10
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I will buy civ4, and test it. Whether I do more than that I cannot answer.

	31-05-2005 21:26									#11
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same as trev above

	01-06-2005 16:27									#12
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ditto...

	01-06-2005 16:34									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey why don't they do civ 2.5 . then we will all play.

Exactly, I always thought a bullet proof version of Civ2 would be brilliant. With today's Internet it's super fast, unlike Civ3 and other games. Civ2 actually works as a viable online game.

We just need a few fixes to lock down MP security and the abilty to plug in custom rules for each game as agreed by the players.

	01-06-2005 17:34									#14
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I agree... maybe if they make the source code available, somebody could take what is basically a solid game, and turn it into what most of us were looking for with Civ III and didn't get. One of the mod pacs could be used to update the graphics a tad (not that I really care about how it looks, but only how it plays) and fix some of the problems. I still love Civ II.

But who knows, maybe Civ IV will blow us away.

	01-06-2005 19:46									#15
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Civ4 is going to be open source for everything except the graphics engine.

	01-06-2005 21:32									#16
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yes according to what i read about civ IV it will be kind of open source .....


but it will be very different compared to civ II ...... no more government types , alot more buildings , every leader will have his/her own personality even if humans play them so if i understand it right it might be tough to go for conquest if you are ghandi ..... , unique units , the promotion system .... , the introduction of "great people" , more wonders/different wonders ?? , war might be more difficult ..... and a very different value system for the units ..... , also i think you will need to built some city improvement if you want to use the special ressources (this would be good and reduce the value of those ressources at the start ) .....

it sounds good ,i just hope for once that there will be no exploits like in all previous versions .... but i guess that will be idle hope ?

	02-06-2005 12:17									#17
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quote: Originally posted by caesar007 yes according to what i read about civ IV it will be kind of open source ..... but it will be very different compared to civ II ...... no more government types , alot more buildings , every leader will have his/her own personality even if humans play them so if i understand it right it might be tough to go for conquest if you are ghandi ..... , unique units , the promotion system .... , the introduction of "great people" , more wonders/different wonders ?? , war might be more difficult ..... and a very different value system for the units ..... , also i think you will need to built some city improvement if you want to use the special ressources (this would be good and reduce the value of those ressources at the start ) ..... it sounds good ,i just hope for once that there will be no exploits like in all previous versions .... but i guess that will be idle hope ?

that all sounds terrible!!

LOL

	02-06-2005 13:07									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I agree... maybe if they make the source code available, somebody could take what is basically a solid game, and turn it into what most of us were looking for with Civ III and didn't get. One of the mod pacs could be used to update the graphics a tad (not that I really care about how it looks, but only how it plays) and fix some of the problems. I still love Civ II. But who knows, maybe Civ IV will blow us away.

Yeah, there were so many intelligent computer programmers amongst the Civ2MP brigade that I'm sure it could be done. It's a shame that the resources got split; with the brilliant Mark E developing Clash of Civs and the other lot doing FreeCiv... and no source code