31-05-2005 03:36									#31
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Hey, the computer CAN be worked over.. I mean if there's a KILLER solution, I will take the effort to move the computer into the other room. All I need is a 10 meter cable, and if that doesn't work, a hub would do it. The work part is hiding the cable. IT'S DOABLE!

	31-05-2005 03:40									#32
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If you give me a few days, I might be able to draw up something. The workable space is about 5 by 3 meters, right? What's the height to the ceiling?

	31-05-2005 03:47									#33
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zopperoni, quickly looking at that pic, yeah, living room is that.. The height is... damn I don't know, regular height?

I have time... I have all the time in the world, the only criteria is that I need to make it work and seem like it was put together with an effort or professionalism

	31-05-2005 03:54									#34
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Argh. I hate all image editing software known to man.

Okay, the area near the computer desk is best left as neat as possible. Desk stays where it is. A comfortable but unobstrusive chair is needed. Keep computer desk clean. Maybe personalise area with a few momentos. Behind you, on the wall, a wall mounteed shelf would be good, with a mix of CD's, books, and little important things to you. We love this little gem from Ikea for example:



Now, for the other half of the living room. Near were ET turns into living room, a sofa up against the common wall between the room and the bedroom would do nicely. Now a low coffee table (I like glass and metal ones because they are effectively "spaceless" when it comes to the impression of volume). Two or three beanbags in a lazy half circle around the coffee table gives a casual impression, a place of people to sit, and acts as a break between the more friendly area and the more serious area near the computer. On the wall opposite the sofa, definately something....pictures? If it was me, there's be a simple and abstract painting behind the sofa and something more vivid and art deco on the walls. Vintage ads from the 20's are absolutely brilliant.

Now, could be I've gotten the dimensions all wrong and this will look horribly crowded. I've gotten so used to living in a box at uni that anything bigger boggles the mind.

	31-05-2005 04:00									#35
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Hmm, I'm not sure if you meant that the shelf behind the desk or me. If it's behind me, there will be the problem of opening balcony door. Also, I couldn't near reach it, but I guess that wasn't the idea... anyway that ikea thing looks quite nice actually

	31-05-2005 04:02									#36
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Also when you say you like art deco, can you point me to a website where I can see what that is?

	31-05-2005 04:11									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka oh man I don't know... but the south window (the one next to comp desk) sees the sunlight as the sun rises in the morning. It gets hella hot in fact in living room because of this, if I don't open the 'balcony' door.

In that case I would switch the location of your bed and your computer.

	31-05-2005 04:16									#38
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One problem though is that the sun shines right through the whole morning. It's direct. you can't escape it, and it gets horribly hot and uncomfortable. So if I put my bed there, every morning will be torture

	31-05-2005 04:18									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Also when you say you like art deco, can you point me to a website where I can see what that is?

Well, my desktop wallpaper for a start


http://www.internationalposter.com/AD-text.htm

	31-05-2005 04:21									#40
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no wait.. those are actually pretty cool.. kind of 'not just posters'. I'll take a look in this..

	31-05-2005 04:21									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Az KH = toilet? KH will be thrilled.

Watch yourself.

	31-05-2005 04:22									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka AZ, yeah .. actually I have no idea what those letters mean, must be Krazyhorse.. where the **** swims!

I'm going to bushwhack you, you Scandinavian wannabe.

	31-05-2005 04:23									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley A north arrow would be helpful, so we can tell when and where you get sunlight.

It's Finland. They don't.

	31-05-2005 04:31									#44
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KH, tell me about it.. except now when it's summer coming up.. it's actually dark only few hours per day.. damn sun won't go down

	31-05-2005 04:35									#45
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Yeah. Though Montreal is actually colder than Helsinki it can't compare with the daylight thing.

We're only at 45.5 North so our longest night is 15.5 hours or so.

	31-05-2005 04:44									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka One problem though is that the sun shines right through the whole morning. It's direct. you can't escape it, and it gets horribly hot and uncomfortable. So if I put my bed there, every morning will be torture

Don't you get up in the morning?

	31-05-2005 04:49									#47
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Smiley, no, not at 5AM. It gets up really early in the summer. But please, give your suggestions, I can always use the curtains

	31-05-2005 04:50									#48
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Just found this... this is kind of cool, too bad it costs little over 400 euros.. too much for shelves only.. for me that is It's too cool!

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	31-05-2005 04:53									#49
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In that case, pull bed to the far end of the room away from the window. The space near the window can be your main social space. In the summer, when it gets too hot, go outside.

	31-05-2005 04:55									#50
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that would work, but how would I separate the bed from the rest of the room?

	31-05-2005 05:53									#51
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You don't- it's a bed at night, a sofa in the daytime.

	31-05-2005 05:59									#52
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The question isn't so much what to put in....
....it's how to keep the cost of quality stuff down.

Check out estate sales and auctions. (You can probably find them advertised in the newspaper.)
It's cool to buy from dead people. They can't take it with them so they -- or their greedy relative -- sell cheap.

	31-05-2005 09:43									#53
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If you want to make the place look big, use mirrors. The best places to put them is the wall in ET facing the kitchen, and the wall in your living room facing the balcony. Not only mirrors make your place look bigger, they also make it brighter.

A couple of things right off the bat: make the entrance lobby bright, I guess that would be the area marked ET. You could look into LEDs, they are cheap and very energy efficient.

Look for multiple-use items, such as sofa beds. They now have many different multiple-use items out.

One idea may be to section off your living room. Place one of those tall screen things about 1.5m from the corner, and it should be about 1.5m long as well. You can put a big shelf on the living room side, and a sofa (or maybe some bean bags) along the same wall further down (closer to the balcony).

	31-05-2005 16:41									#54
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where did you people go? COME BACK I'm not nearly satisfied yet.

Zkribbler, yeah, I'm looking actions almost daily..there are REAL bargains every now and then.. good stuff for practically free.

UR, actually there is one mirror on the wall, and that's in ET, facing the kitchen .

I have also thought about sectioning the living room with tall screens, because it's got enough room for it, it's kind of narrow room, but long.

	31-05-2005 18:46									#55
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where are you going to park the susie q's?

	31-05-2005 18:48									#56
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in the parking lot. The rest of them are in my storage at PWS.

	31-05-2005 23:47									#57
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get back you bastards!

I'd like suggestions in forms of pictures. Gimme pics. When you suggest some solution, if you can find a pic of an example, it'll be easier for me to visualize. Otherwise we are just talking about where the sofa goes basically .

I'd like to create an illusion of long space in the living room. It is long in sense of, well being narrow.

So, I'd like it to be kind of social room in a way where it feels long, and there's like .. it's like a lounge in a way, where it's not too anchored being one localized spot. Do you get what I mean guys (and girls)? It's either that, or partitioning the room with screens like suggested OR to create one social area with an exception of kind of isolating the comp desk.

But I'd really like to look iunto the option of making the living room into a long space, where you can have like different sections if you want to. If I put screen in there, it'll basically cut the room in half, where I'd like to create the long room illusion, and cutting in half will make it difficult.

	01-06-2005 03:49									#58
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Ok I've found lots of nice stuff in Ikea, maybe I get most of my stuff there.

However, one thing I can't figure otu at all is the lighting. I see lots of cool lights that I could buy, but I have no idea how they work good. Also, suggestions about anything, still VERY welcome.

	01-06-2005 08:05									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka So, I'd like it to be kind of social room in a way where it feels long, and there's like .. it's like a lounge in a way, where it's not too anchored being one localized spot. Do you get what I mean guys (and girls)?

In that case forget about a coffee table or a sofa. Just chuck bean bags around randomly

If you need tables have two or three small ones that can be moved around easily.

	01-06-2005 08:09									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka However, one thing I can't figure otu at all is the lighting. I see lots of cool lights that I could buy, but I have no idea how they work good. Also, suggestions about anything, still VERY welcome.

What colour is your floor? How tall is the ceiling?