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Ned
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
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The core of the problem appears to have been John Dean. He was the White House lawyer and should have been advising Nixon on the legalities of obstructing justice etc. Instead, Dean was the author of it having suggested the idea to Haldeman in the first place. Dean was also the Whitehouse guy behind the breakin in the first place, and was seeking to protect his own ass by terminating the investigation.
BTW, I just learned this week that the target of the breakin was to discover information on a call girl ring being operated by the DNC to supply high level Dems with call girls. Apparently the plan was to later plant bugs on some of these girls to get info on the campaign.
As to Felt, he has many times himself stated that a DD of the FBI leaking investigation material to the press would be dishonorable and illegal. I assume this is one of the reasons he never himself revealed that he was Deep Throat.
Now, the real problem with Watergate is the attempted impeachment of Nixon. What he actually did was to obstruct justice by attempting to limit the FBI investigation that would have lead to Mitchell and others. This clearly was illegal, but was it an impeachable offense? Clinton did the same thing. The difference between Nixon and Clinton was that the object of the investigation in the one case was the Nixon campaign, and in the other, Clinton himself.
I admit that I would have like to see Clinton impeached. I assume the libs here would certainly have liked to see Nixon impeached. But if you want me to be consistent and to also agree that Nixon should have been impeached had he not first resigned, will you also be consistent as well?
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Ned
The core of the problem appears to have been John Dean. He was the White House lawyer and should have been advising Nixon on the legalities of obstructing justice etc. Instead, Dean was the author of it having suggested the idea to Haldeman in the first place. Dean was also the Whitehouse guy behind the breakin in the first place, and was seeking to protect his own ass by terminating the investigation.
BTW, I just learned this week that the target of the breakin was to discover information on a call girl ring being operated by the DNC to supply high level Dems with call girls. Apparently the plan was to later plant bugs on some of these girls to get info on the campaign.
As to Felt, he has many times himself stated that a DD of the FBI leaking investigation material to the press would be dishonorable and illegal. I assume this is one of the reasons he never himself revealed that he was Deep Throat.
Now, the real problem with Watergate is the attempted impeachment of Nixon. What he actually did was to obstruct justice by attempting to limit the FBI investigation that would have lead to Mitchell and others. This clearly was illegal, but was it an impeachable offense? Clinton did the same thing. The difference between Nixon and Clinton was that the object of the investigation in the one case was the Nixon campaign, and in the other, Clinton himself.
I admit that I would have like to see Clinton impeached. I assume the libs here would certainly have liked to see Nixon impeached. But if you want me to be consistent and to also agree that Nixon should have been impeached had he not first resigned, will you also be consistent as well? |
Nixon's facility with breakins and other little details long predates Dean. Go back to his campaigns against Jerry Voorhis and Helen Gehagan Douglas.
wrt the comparison of Clinton and Nixon, Clinton's obstruction/whatever was related to getting blowjobs from an intern. Nixon's was in regard to one incident that was a culmination of a pattern of government employees and contractors engaging in multiple illegal acts in furtherance of Nixon's personal political agenda.
The underlying acts are about as comparable in scale as a crackhead and John Gotti.
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By the way, Angelina Jolie really is a beautiful woman. |
Maybe so, but IIRC it was Linda Lovelace who played in Deep Throat? |
Then ironically became an anti-porn crusader afterwards. She saw little money from the movie.
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02-06-2005 04:25
And the NV did plenty in that regard their own selves.
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