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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:36
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Let's talk about this subject. When you are an expert (or at least THINK you are), you tend to do things in a different way to save time and resources. The big "Do as I tell, not like I do". Because you know your stuff, you can recover from disaster and you can take the risks because they aren't risks to you, or if they are, screw it you're an expert.
For example.. I do the most stupid things with computers. I would go on about changing partitions, convert HDs into different file systems etc without even having a single back up of my most important files. I would not even bother to make a rescue disk if my system would fail to boot. In fact I don't even have XP rescue disk, in case I'd be unable to get a hold of my OS, resulting into installing it again and prolly losing lots of important files. Why? Because I'm too lazy to put the floppy disk in. I risk it all because of it. In fact, in my new computer, I don't even have a floppy drive. Too lazy.
RIght now I don't even have my DVD-R attached to the computer.. I just have the regular DVD-player. So, I would had had to shut down the computer, open the case, attach the IDE cable and power cable to the player, put the case back on and boot up my computer, just to be able to burn a damn rescue disk on a CD? NO WAY!!!!!!!! Takes at least 5 minutes and requires squatting!
And I do it while I have 10 other applications running. Make it more exciting. Merge partitions, split them, what ever, no problem. Until the problem rises its ugly head and I'm truly screwed.
I know how viruses and worms spread, so as IT person, I would have excellent guards?  ... yeah sure. I have the worst ones, I find them security things too restricting for my own uses. So why not configure firewalls to work great and virus scanners? Too lazy! I don't even have a virus scanner.  Only stupid people get viruses, right? You just got to avoid them from the get go. DUH?
I'd have my HDs outside the computer case, and I'm always about to step on them, but who cares I usually am able to just balance myself just before the disaster. Sometiems when I eat, crumbles of bread or food drops on my HDs. Well in that case I do pick them up.
I would take my HDs unprotected and just throw them in the backseat of the car or what ever, in the middle of lots of stuff, to have it with me for my friend or so.
etc etc etc...
Do I take back ups from important files? Hell no! Sometimes I don't even keep older versions of programming files, I mean who needs those old files anyway, if I have to back track, well.. that's too bad. And that's the best way to screw yourself over.
The rule of the thumb is, if it says STRONGLY RECOMMENDED, it means 'stupid people read this'. It's not for you. You can always wing it.
what about you?
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:36
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I always tell my problems. Don't worry about that. It's not a question of not knowing what to do. it's a question of being cowboy YEEHAAA! I'm not claiming to be PROFESSIONAL, but damn, what you talk makes no sense. Real professionals wing it. They invent things by accident, mostly because they broke all the rules, and resources while they were at it. It's not the managent attitude and mindset. It's the ability to do managment style, but not really going with it anyway.
There's a difference in professionalism and.. professionalism. You promote the boring let's do A and then B and read the manuals laalaalaa, take whole day dadadiidadadaa. That kind of professionalism is required when carrying monitors for a living.
Scientists however play with things and they are curious by nature. While you built a nice toy house as a kid, I wrecked mine.
The very .. German way of thinking is essential, however it can be avoided in action, sometimes, it's called being curious and innovative. I know there's nothing innovative about not covering your HD while taking them to other places, or not having a virus scanner, but it's the attitude man.. it's outside the box thinking and attitude. Linear approach is good if you are boring only, or have limited resources.
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BlackCat
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quote:
Originally posted by Pekka
I always tell my problems. Don't worry about that. It's not a question of not knowing what to do. it's a question of being cowboy YEEHAAA! I'm not claiming to be PROFESSIONAL, but damn, what you talk makes no sense. Real professionals wing it. They invent things by accident, mostly because they broke all the rules, and resources while they were at it. It's not the managent attitude and mindset. It's the ability to do managment style, but not really going with it anyway.
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But I guess that you will just luv be called a prof
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There's a difference in professionalism and.. professionalism. You promote the boring let's do A and then B and read the manuals laalaalaa, take whole day dadadiidadadaa. That kind of professionalism is required when carrying monitors for a living.
Scientists however play with things and they are curious by nature. While you built a nice toy house as a kid, I wrecked mine.
The very .. German way of thinking is essential, however it can be avoided in action, sometimes, it's called being curious and innovative. I know there's nothing innovative about not covering your HD while taking them to other places, or not having a virus scanner, but it's the attitude man.. it's outside the box thinking and attitude. Linear approach is good if you are boring only, or have limited resources. |
You totally miss my point. As a prof I know what I'm doing; I know when std procedure is just stupid and I know when I am wise to make a backup.
I guess that the difference between us is that you would gladly enter a red light area known for veneral disesases and not using a condom, while I would use such
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BlackCat
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Originally posted by Pekka
Yes of course you expected more intelligent answers from me since your argument is professionals never make stupid mistakes. |
What gives you that idea ? Of course profs make mistakes, it's just very rare that they make stupid mistakes.
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:36
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"If I'm not wrong, then the title of the thread is "Professional Stupidities" and that has very little to do with what you are doing with some private PC. "
and at the same time you say
"Wow, thats the first time I have been accused of threadjacking because of responsing to the subject of the thread."
Hmm.
"Really, you are getting deperate - trying to insult my personality instead of the subject discussed - are you a memeber of greenpeace ?"
No but if you read the OP I say I leave MY HDs outside the case, I said virus scanners etc in MY computer etc. For a professional you have problems reading and understanding.
I clearly stated that this thread is about professional stupidities, and sharing them. If you are Mr perfect, then you don't have any stories so you should just read because you can't contribute. Instead you are trying to spin this whole thread into 'you are not professional and professionals are not like you'. Exactly what did you not understand this thread was about?
Did I say "The big "Do as I tell, not like I do"."? That refers to a situation where you tell others to do it properly and you do it differently yourself. Like a cleaner having a messy home.
So yes, stop threadjacking and start contributing. And no, it's not a subject of debate what I meant. If YOU didn't get it, now you DO, so onwards please?
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BlackCat
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quote:
Originally posted by Pekka
"If I'm not wrong, then the title of the thread is "Professional Stupidities" and that has very little to do with what you are doing with some private PC. "
and at the same time you say
"Wow, thats the first time I have been accused of threadjacking because of responsing to the subject of the thread."
Hmm.
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And where do I go wrong ?
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"Really, you are getting deperate - trying to insult my personality instead of the subject discussed - are you a memeber of greenpeace ?"
No but if you read the OP I say I leave MY HDs outside the case, I said virus scanners etc in MY computer etc. For a professional you have problems reading and understanding.
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Nope, no reading problems - that is not a prof issue since you don't do it. Period. There is no discussion about this point - you just don't do that if you consider yourself as a prof. period.
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I clearly stated that this thread is about professional stupidities, and sharing them. If you are Mr perfect, then you don't have any stories so you should just read because you can't contribute. Instead you are trying to spin this whole thread into 'you are not professional and professionals are not like you'. Exactly what did you not understand this thread was about?
Did I say "The big "Do as I tell, not like I do"."? That refers to a situation where you tell others to do it properly and you do it differently yourself. Like a cleaner having a messy home.
So yes, stop threadjacking and start contributing. And no, it's not a subject of debate what I meant. If YOU didn't get it, now you DO, so onwards please?
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Nice try, but no cookie - what you described in the OP may be common procedure for a private computer but no way anything near professional treatment of such. Well if you are a newbee, you may act that stupid, but not for long.
Can't figure out what you want. No prof will ever do anything resembling what you describes in the OP ?
Edit : damn quotes got messed up trying to repair
Edit : hopefully with better quotes 
edit : I think I have it now (and no this isn't prof - I'm on the way down the second bottle of redwine )
Last edited by BlackCat on 02-06-2005 at 04:40
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