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listening too long to one song
Mar 2002
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Originally posted by Thorn
My Love of my Life and Boyfriend of 5 years has been thrown in jail for 2 accounts of felony larceny from his employer, 1 for 2thousand something another for 5hundred something
He didn't do it, but unfortunately his undocumented anxiety disorder allowed the police to coerce him into sign a written confession. They told him they had video evidence (which they didn't show to him) that fingered him, he was afraid that they might try to concoct more evidence, and they said if he signed the confession he'd get a lesser sentence.
He was pleading not guilty, last I heard, but I haven't heard anything more today... this all happened yesterday afternoon  .
I couldn't get him bail (set at 4000 dollars) or even a bailbondsmen (600 dollars).. so he is stuck there until his dirt poor family can use the deed to their house to get him out on bail.
I don't know if any of you lawyers here can help me out with some information. What do you think will happen, whats the max sentence, please god tell me no jail time?
We Live in Asheville North Carolina, Buncombe County, he has been arrested and is in Hendersonville (Henderson County) North Carolina Detention facility.
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Disclaimer: this is not legal advice 
This makes me glad that I don't practice in NC-the law is incredibly bloated and a chore to decipher.
From what I can tell, larceny >1000 is an H felony. If his first offence, then I think that would be 3-8 months. I doubt there's mandatory time there, but I don't know.
http://www.nccourts.org/Courts/CRS/...shmentchart.pdf
Is he eligible for a public defender? I'm not sure what NC or Henderson County has, an agency or contracts through the courts. (And hopefully they are decent, its rather hit or miss, unfortunately) Either way, hopefully they can dig up some psych exam stuff on your b/f to work against the confession.
Good luck. Its far to early in this to panic. Probably what will happen is that he will have an attorney appointed for him, there will be a bond review hearing that will lower or eliminate the bond (really depends on jail overcrowding), and then eventually a trial date will be set. The confession can hopefully be suppressed, but hard to say what the evidence and facts are about that.
chin up!
/not legal advice 
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:24
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Emporor Kratzenberg
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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:24
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when the instigator suddenly (and years later) announces "Oh, I really am ill"?
Now had I actually known he was ill, but made fun of him? That's sociopathic.
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This isn't the first time he has said that he is ill, he has mentioned seeing psychologists. But even without that, considering the content of his posts if you didn't suspect mental illness, then your not only nasty, you're very stupid as well.
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Not someone who has just wished him luck. |
Yes, you did that. You also told him you didn't feel bad about taunting him earlier. That's a malicious thing to do, to say to someone who you have mistreated that you don't have any remorse or feel bad about at all.
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So cancel your presumed occupation of the moral high ground and save it for someone who needs it. |
To the contrary, Laz, I don't claim the moral highground. I do bad things too. We all do bad things. But if it comes to my attention that I have done something wrong, I feel guilty, I feel bad about it, whether or not I had inteded to do it.
For instance, if I were to go walking and accidently bump into an elderly man on a cane, and I knocked him down, I'd feel bad about it, as would nearly everyone. I might not have meant to bump into him, I might not have seen the Cane, but I'd still have hurt someone and I'd feel bad about it.
Feeling bad about bad things you have done, i.e. having a conscience, it what seperates normal people from sociopaths.
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Whale-raping abomination
Aug 2000
time: 05:24
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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
To the contrary, Laz, I don't claim the moral highground. I do bad things too. We all do bad things. But if it comes to my attention that I have done something wrong, I feel guilty, I feel bad about it, whether or not I had inteded to do it.
For instance, if I were to go walking and accidently bump into an elderly man on a cane, and I knocked him down, I'd feel bad about it, as would nearly everyone. I might not have meant to bump into him, I might not have seen the Cane, but I'd still have hurt someone and I'd feel bad about it.
Feeling bad about bad things you have done, i.e. having a conscience, it what seperates normal people from sociopaths. |
Convince me that I should feel guilty about poking fun at his extraordinary attempts to argue with one of his own DL's at the time, and I'll concede the point happily. Until then, I feel no guilt about it.
To take the example of the man you posted, and let's say he's blind- to be accurate, the man would have to be wearing a neon sandwich-board reading "I'm not really blind SUCKAH! AHA! You fell for my dark glasses act like the sap you are! OWNED!!!"
Then, some years later, revealing "Actually I am blind". Would I feel guilty about poking fun at the time? Nope, because he'd actively provoked it. So go parade your bleeding heart elsewhere. You've always been waaaaaay too quick to condemn without giving the matter much thought, haven't you?
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Shi Huangdi
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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:24
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Convince me that I should feel guilty about poking fun at his extraordinary attempts to argue with one of his own DL's at the time, and I'll concede the point happily. |
You know that your harrasment of him wasn't limited to the Emperor Craetseazar incident.
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To take the example of the man you posted, and let's say he's blind- to be accurate, the man would have to be wearing a neon sandwich-board reading "I'm not really blind SUCKAH! AHA! You fell for my dark glasses act like the sap you are! OWNED!!!" |
No, that analogy doesn't work at all. EVC never gave any such indidcation that he wasn't mentally ill. In fact, stuff such as the EVC/EC flame war, and everything about his persona back then should have made it obvious to anyone that posts coming from him were the product of illness.
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Straw poll- how many veteran posters here feel guilty for laughing at EvC's "Emperor Craetsezer" (or whoever it was) routine? |
It's a little more then laughing at a routine though, isn't it? It's more like a sucsession of vitroilic insults and mocking throughout his time on the forum.
Anyway, so it seems you can't justify your own behavior on your own, so you need to try to get other people to come in and say they felt similarly? Pathetic. 
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:24
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"Straw poll- how many veteran posters here feel guilty for laughing at EvC's "Emperor Craetsezer" "
I think it started with a 'K'
Kraetsezer... Hmm, doesn't look right either.
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Shi Huangdi
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Pittsburgh, PA
Apr 1999
time: 00:24
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If you look closely, you might also notice a certain Shi Huangdi showing an attitude that falls short of hand-wringing concern for the mentally ill. |
You know what Laz? I have talked to EVC hours upon end over AIM letting him discuss his problems with me, trying to help him deal with his issues, and urging him to get help.
But even if I did go too far in that one thread, those posts came nowhere near to your consistent level of vitriol towards him. And I said before:
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To the contrary, Laz, I don't claim the moral highground. I do bad things too. We all do bad things. But if it comes to my attention that I have done something wrong, I feel guilty, I feel bad about it, whether or not I had inteded to do it. |
I wouldn't go back in another thread and say basically "You know, I still feel I was right to be a jerk"
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Serious question- are you confusing me with someone else? I like the bloke, in both his EVC and Thorn incarnations, and have gone on record as saying so on this forum. Yes- I laughed and made fun of his terrorist days, but who didn't? |
Now, I don't have the patience/lack-of-life to go through the OT Archive to dig up every old thread, many of which aren't available any longer as it happened before the changeover to vBulletin. But I do have the post you just made now:
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Now had I actually known he was ill, but made fun of him? That's sociopathic. |
You yourself admit that your own behavior was enough that it would have been sociopathic had you known he is mentally ill. Reading over your own links however, that should be ****ing obvious to anyone.
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