04-06-2005 09:43									#31
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quote: Originally posted by KyuuA4 As opposed to past scenarios involving Catherine the Great vs Otto von Bismark... WTF was that?!

No freaking kidding! Elizabeth I allied with Abraham Lincoln against Tokugawa Ieyasu? VOMIT!

	05-06-2005 01:43									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander01 Well, actually she married a man named Feroze Gandhi. See, over there, the name Gandhi's about as common as Smith. Her dad was Jawaharlal Nehru.

Did you/are you major in History or even graduate school in history?


Related to majoring in history, didn't Soren major in History before he got his Masters in CS? Following that, you would assume Soren would be able to add a lot of historical depth among the design issues, such as the leaders.

	05-06-2005 18:25									#33
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quote: Originally posted by TechWins Did you/are you major in History or even graduate school in history? Related to majoring in history, didn't Soren major in History before he got his Masters in CS? Following that, you would assume Soren would be able to add a lot of historical depth among the design issues, such as the leaders.

Yes I am.

	05-06-2005 23:15									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander01 Heck, I'd like a full WWII scenario with appropriate leaderheads provided -- Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, Tojo, DeGaulle, Chiang, etc.

I have high hopes that this will come to pass when the game hits the community!

	06-06-2005 00:35									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander01 Nope. It's not "PC" enough. Though they certainly haven't had a problem including Stalin and Mao in the past, both of whom butchered more people than Hitler ever did. (Not that that would justify ol' Adolf's inclusion, rather, it cries for the disclusion of the other two).

Quit whining. For chrissake, it's not gonna change anything and it starts to get a little irritating after the 2000th discussion...

	06-06-2005 00:39									#36
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Well a unified Mongol Empire under one leader might have been realtively short-lived, but the effects of Mongol or Turkic-Mongol civilization are much longer lasting. Today, the Iranians say that their country's ancient irrigation systems never recovered from the destruction of the Khwarizm khanate and the rump Abbasid domains in the Middle East. The Mongol destruction of Baghdad wrecked an ages-old centre of learning, science and culture, irreparably. The Mongols shattered the growing Russian city states, destroyed the flower of East European chivalry in battle and were on the point of threatening Central and Western Europe- imagine a Europe with no Renaissance, north or south. The Mongol dynasty of Kublai Khan in China was world famous, although even it had its limitations, seeing defeat in Srivijaya, the jungles of South East Asia and Japan. Presumably the moral being don't venture beyond the natural capability of steppe horsemen fighting units. The Timurid and Moghul Mongol successor states are also reasonably well-known, as is the Golden Horde in Russian history. In fact, the Mongols hindered Russian advancement greatly.

Yes, but you can't have a Great Leader of Historical Aftereffects.

	06-06-2005 16:55									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Yes, but you can't have a Great Leader of Historical Aftereffects.

Oddly enough, can't see that I suggested we should have.

	06-06-2005 19:48									#38
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We're talking about 2 leaders for the Mongols. KyuuA4 said that the Mongol's empire lasted only about 100 years - then you mentioned, in reply, that they had vast effects outside of that 100 years.

	06-06-2005 20:11									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Quit whining. For chrissake, it's not gonna change anything and it starts to get a little irritating after the 2000th discussion...

Whining? I don't care what they decide to do. I just like being facetious because it amuses me.