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paramir is offline paramir
Prince

Sep 2004
time: 21:29
  Old Post 04-06-2005 05:04
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created a board herre (password:underdog) to talk about leap frogging, will be sending out PMs shortly

PJayTycy is offline PJayTycy
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Apr 2005
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  Old Post 04-06-2005 17:12
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I joined and found the forum empty. What exactly do you want to use that forum for?

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Sep 2004
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I have been sick latley, and not in my full sences. So just ignore this thread

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Apr 2005
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  Old Post 06-06-2005 16:26
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Well, maybe that forum was not a great idea, but we can still use this thread.

If we want to leap-frog or buy technologies, we should first have a list with techs we currently have and which techs the data angels / gaians / sparta has. Only then we can start a serious discussion about the techs.

PJayTycy is offline PJayTycy
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Apr 2005
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OK, I found the techs for every faction except Sparta's.

=> Everybody has all level 1 & level 2 techs, except Deidre. She lacks prog. psych, poly softw, nonlin math, field modulation

=> level 3:

Intell. Integr : Gaia is researching it, we don't have it, everybody else has it.
Opt. Comp : only Gaia doesn't have it
Ind. Autom : everybody has it
gene splicing : everybody has it
adapt econom : only Gaia and Hive don't have it
adapt doctrine : Univ, Peace, Angels have it

=> level 4:

neural grafting : we are researching, Hive and Univ don't have it.
synth fossil fuels : everybody has it
ecol eng : everybody has it
cyber ethics : Univ, Peace, Angels have it
planet econom : only Univ has it
Superconductor : only Deidre doesn't have it
doctr. initiative : Hive is researching, nobody has it
Adv. Mil. Alg : Univ is researching, nobody has it

=> level 5 :
air power : everybody has it
env. econom : everybody has it
superstring theory : Peace is researching, nobody has it.



So, Deidre is lacking a lot of techs, the Angels already have everything.

Let this be a starting point for the tech-leapfrog discussions :-)

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King
Technical University of Ilmenau, Germany
Oct 2002
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Thank you very much, PJay!

Is Gaia interested in getting techs at all? I mean, they must already have too much of a tech cost if they lack so many of them...

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Apr 2005
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summary for the 3 factions :

Deidre lacks as only faction : prog psych, poly softw, nonlin math, field mod, opt comp, adapt econ, superconductor

We lack as only faction : neural grafting (but researching now)

Angels have as only faction : intel integr, adapt doctr, cyberethics

Sparta offers for sale : Doc Init + Plan. econ. + the Angel's techs.


If gaia gives us neural grafting, we might leapfrog to MMI.
If angels give Gaia intel. integr, they might leapfrog to Planet. Economics

both those are techs no one of us three have and were high on Andid's list.

PJayTycy is offline PJayTycy
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Apr 2005
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Still no response from anybody ? Not even a confirmation they received the msg and are considering it ?

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Sep 2004
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Dear Morgans

At the moment a leap-frogging would not be in out best interest

The area of Orbital Spaceflight and above is on our to-do list.

Like you we want it in peacefull hands instead of the Spartans.

With the DA status in tech advances a ecs for tech to increase out instabuild is how future relations are looking.

ForesterSOF
DA Ambassador

No DA then
Message also posted in general DA diplomacy

Phenix is offline Phenix
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Hasselt, Belgium
Jan 2003
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This is probably a stupid question, but I noticed the Spartans have the Planetary Datalinks SP.

So the spartans would get any tech we shared with the DA and the gaians, right? That means the leapfrog would be only profitable if we researched things the spartans already have... else they could simply leech on us...

or can someone explain this to me?

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Apr 2005
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Phenix, I think everybody forgot about that. But as neither the DA nor the Gaians want to co-operate we shouldn't really care now.

On the other hand, we can't win the tech race against Sparta who has the univ and the PK as pactmates for easy techs.

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May 2004
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Well, we will try... if anyone hasn't got a better proposition, that is.

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