04-06-2005 07:01									#1
	The Most Feared Unit in the Hands of the AI's? Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

So I've been playing around recently with introducing various "new" units into the base set of available units the AI's can then build. One unit has recently caught my attention (I won't say how), which is a Probe Cruiser Sub with AA, available with Doc:Init. Essentially what happens is that the AI's will definately build these units upon discovery of Doc: Init, and their immediate benefit is that the AI's can then use these units in sneak attacks against naval units of other hostile Factions. The added benefit for the AI's is that by the time Doc: Air rolls around the AI's have many of these hard to detect subs in strategically placed positions all over the map, where they can then use their AA capability to MC your air units!
Also, using the same theme above of introducing "The Solution" before the need arises, why I have also had some successes with making a Drop Missile SAM units available with SFF: the AI's will then have at least some defenses against an aerial onslaught once it begins!
So, what are your opinons on what would be "The Most Feared Unit" in the hands of the AI's?


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	04-06-2005 07:17									#2
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Shock and Horror! Probe-steal your air units with AA?...

I never would have thought to even 'try' that...I love the very idea...

Me, the scariest AI unit was the Chopper Sub Carrier...It's like a submerged hornet's nest...


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	04-06-2005 07:38									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Infernis Shock and Horror! Probe-steal your air units with AA?... I never would have thought to even 'try' that...I love the very idea...

The rules in the base game prohibit the building of such a unit as I described above, so this is probably a good reason as to why it was never even an option for you.
However, in a modified game why the unit I described above, as well as many others, can be made available to both the AI's as well as human players.....

quote: Originally posted by Infernis Me, the scariest AI unit was the Chopper Sub Carrier...It's like a submerged hornet's nest... ~I~

A Sub Carrier would be a formidable weapon in the hands of the AI if it were capable of using such a tool. However, almost exclusively, I have never seen the AI use any carrier, at all, even when I gave this capability to them at the outset of a game.
You speak from experience: can you post your saves here for me and others to review, to see how the AI(s) were induced into building and utilizing such units?


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	04-06-2005 11:02									#4
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Well, I can tell you, as this was a while back...But, from what I remember, I was playing the Hive and fighting a two front war with the Spartans and the Believers...Yes, I likes Immunity to Inefficiency, oh yes...

Anyways, I was on the verge of completing the CBA and next thing I know, I've got Fusion Choppers coming in and smacking around my formers and crawlers...Took out a chunk of them before they just flew around and buzzed my cities...

Never took them out of range of their carrier...Not real smart, no suicide tactics for them...I mean, they could have smashed through my defenses at The Hive if they had wanted to and forced the city to switch from the CBA to a garrison unit, but they didn't...

I'll see if I can induce the AI to do it again...


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	04-06-2005 22:00									#5
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Submarines mind controlling air units? I shudder to think what it must involve (hovering submarines? ) .

	04-06-2005 22:31									#6
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Most feared unit? A planet buster.

	04-06-2005 22:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Darsnan So, what are your opinons on what would be "The Most Feared Unit" in the hands of the AI's?

Battle Ogre mkIII. I have yet to see these in game...

	04-06-2005 23:22									#8
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planetbuster of course. what else can wipe out my hard earned SP's?

	04-06-2005 23:29									#9
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an asteroid strike

	05-06-2005 00:57									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Cataphract887 an asteroid strike

Mindbusters all the way!!

	06-06-2005 12:57									#11
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quote: hovering submarines?

Yeah, imagine the sight of a sub jumping out of an ocean like a dolphin and connecting to your NJ's uplink slot..

	08-06-2005 07:06									#12
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How about an isle of the deep with the sub and cloak abilities? Not only could it transport, but it could attack as well...

As far as the most feared unit, I going to have to say 50 4-2-2 units under Miriams control sourrounding the 8 squares around your base...and believe me, I have had it happen, too bad I didn't have artillery...

	08-06-2005 16:03									#13
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Did the base suffer starvation?

	08-06-2005 21:31									#14
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I don't think so...I think I had a lot of choppers, I'm guessing with tachyon bolts, but not sure...it was before I uninstalled SMAX, so it would have been at least a couple months ago...I remember the game because I sent it to my friend on a floppy disk...if I could find the floppy, I could put the game here...very interesting game, lots of PBs...

	09-06-2005 13:34									#15
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quote: Did the base suffer starvation?

Saboteur..