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4th Post down from here contains VOTING RESULTS!
Hello and welcome to another edition of the Apolytoners Hall of Fame!
What is it?
The Apolytoners Hall of Fame (HoF) is a list of people who contributed a lot to the community here on Apolyton. For example: Xin Yu was inducted in the HoF for his incredible strategy and MP contributions to the Civ2 section, yin26 for his fantastic work on 'The List' with suggestions for Civ3. Every member of the Hall of Fame has made great contributions to Apolyton and the Civilization community - these people and their accomplishments must be remembered by us all!
If you don't recognize many names you probably haven't been here very long and/or hardly ever post outside this forum - in that case this HoF might be a good opportunity to learn something about them. That is why this Hall of Fame was created: to remember and learn.
Periodically, we hold a vote for the Apolytoners who we think contribute the most to Apolyton, the ones who make Apolyton what it is. The winners shall be inducted in the Hall of Fame and their names will live forever in the annals of APOLYTON!
History
The idea for the Hall of Fame was born in late 2000 as an outgrowth of the old Apolyton Army and Apolytoner of the Season Contests, seeking to honor the people of Apolyton in a more meaningful and structured way.
The first edition was held in the Off Topic in December 2000 over a period of 3 days and is currently archived. The first election saw Markos and Dan, the owners and administrators of this site, and the first 10 posters inducted.
Since then, the HoF vote has been held roughly 4 times a year with 11-14 total members being elected every year. Up until August 2002, the vote was held only in the Off Topic forum - from that time on it has been posted in other sections (first in Civ3, later also in SMAC, CtP1-MP, CtP2, etc).
Special Thanks/Why we do certain things:
Ming for archiving the first thread and helping manage the thread in its early days.
As per suggestion by MOBIUS, the last vote's are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Solver, all previous votes are carried onto the next votes.
As per suggestion by Martin Guhman, December votes are extended till 6 days.
As per suggestion by Locutus, introduction revised.
December 2004 election's success means that future December elections be a minimum of 20 days long.
MarkG for creating the CivGroup in February 2005.
This edition
Welcome to the July 2005 edition of the APOLYTONERS HALL OF FAME
(3 Members to be inducted this session)
(Only 10 total will be elected this year)
You have approximately 15-20 days to vote [Until July 25th).
Please vote today and elect some of your brethren to join the historic Hall; consisting of such hallowed names as Adam Smith, DanQ, MarkG, Giant Squid, St Leo, Ming, Snapcase, samson, Locutus, oedo, rah and more.
So now is your chance to decide: who should be inducted in the HoF this time?
Table of Contents
I Introduction Post
1) What is it
2) History
3) This Edition
4) Table of Contents
5) Notice
II Rules Post
1) Rules for voting
2) Amendments
a) Purgings
b) Posthumous Inductions
3) FAQ
III Hall Posting
1) Hall of Fame Members
2) Alphabetical member list
3) Chronological member list (by date of induction)
4) Chronological member list (by registration date)
5) Information about the Hall of Famers
IV Current Voting
1) Current Standings
2) Who voted for Whom
POST 2
1) Rules for voting
Everyone can vote for 3 posters
Registered In/Before 1999- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2000- 4 points per vote
Registered In 2001- 3 point per vote
Registered In 2002- 3 points per vote
Registered In 2003- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2004- 2 point per vote
Registered In 2005- 1 point per vote
-You may not vote for yourself.
-All ¡¥frivolous¡¦ votes are thrown out.
-Giving your vote to someone merely because they ask is considered a frivolous vote.
No vote changing once you have voted for someone; unless you accidentally voted for someone already in the hall.
You may only vote once in the hall of fame (for 3 people) IF you try to vote more than once ALL of your votes will be made void.
Time Limit for voting is: 15-20 Days for this time.
2) Amendments
a) Purgings
Members will be purged from the voting rolls if they received 0 new votes in the month of election. This allows the hall to keep up-to-date, and keeps it from having to reset completely every month. Thus, the hall worthy posters will continue to gather votes day in and day out because their contributions to Apolyton are timeless.
b) Posthumous Inductions
In the regrettable case where a popular member has perished, the Hall of Fame has the ability to posthumously induct him/her into the hall based upon popular opinion. The first class of posthumous inductees (December 2003) included such forum greats as Tazidude, Scouse Gits(2), and faded glory.
3) FAQ:
Trust me, an on-topicer will never win ¡§
What about Xin Yu? What about Velociryx? Both good posters who are currently in the hall!
And if you think that being interviewed by Solver is a prerequisite for an on-topicer getting into the hall- then I had best remind you of the election of Paul!
And remember, many of these ¡¥mostly-OT posters¡¦ used to be huge on-topic posters back around 1998-99! Ming for example, Giant Squid for another!
Disclaimer:
The Hall of Fame is based on whoever people vote for, and as Lazarus and the Gimp stated so eloquently: ¡§"The compilers of this list cannot rule out the possibility of inductees being a bunch of utter ****s" Thus. Please. Don¡¦t shoot the messenger.
Where is the Hall of Fame usually posted?
From December 2000 to August 2002, the Hall of Fame had only been posted in the Off Topic forums; with occasional forays into the Apolyton/Community section. However, nowadays you can find the Apolytoners hall of fame in the OT (main) Civ III (main) and with satellite threads that link into the hall of fame in the following sections: CTP II MP, AC-General, Alt.Civ section-„³Clash of Civilizations (b/c it has 2nd most posts in alt.civ), Civ III DemoGame sections.
Also, the Hall of Fame is currently lobbying to become a news item.
¡¨How long is voting?¡¨
Voting will continue for roughly 15-20 days.
In December; voting will be 20 days unless the corollary act is enacted and voting is done during Christmas time; in that case voting will be extended to 30 days in order to accommodate all traveling voters)
Why Do People who received no votes last time expire ?
Their votes expire and they are zeroed and kicked off the list because they were not found to be interesting at the time of the last vote or two. This is done so as to keep the hall clear¡K
This new process certainly keeps the hall current (a la Major League Baseball¡¦s Hall of Fame)
I was recommended not to carry over votes at all, but will continue that tradition, because we don¡¦t merely want ¡§flavor of the month¡¨ posters elected. The persons who should be elected to the hall should have contributed to the site over a long period of time.
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1) Hall of Fame Members
Apolytoners hall of fame Members -67
December 2001 Adam Smith
December 2000 Alexander's Horse [The Apolyton Troll]
September 2004 alexman
December 2002 Asher
December 2003 Boris Godunov
March 2001 Boshko (AKA Zhu Yuanzhang, Dave Boshko)
December 2001 chegitz guevara
August 2002 Chris 62
December 2000 DanQ
December 2003 DanS
May 2003 DinoDoc
March 2002 Ecthelion
Spetember 2004 El Awrence
March 2001 *End is Forever* (AKA Iain Lindley)
June 2001 EVC (AKA Evan VonChristof) [The Apolyton Daffy Duck] (Now present as Thorn)
December 2003 faded glory (AKA Saddam)
December 2004 Googlie
December 2004 Kramsib
December 2002 KrazyHorse (AKA Frogger)
December 2000 Giant Squid (AKA Celestion the God, Alexander the Great) [The Apolyton DL]
January 2001 Imran Siddiqui [ACS News Coordinator]
December 2003 Ixnay
March 2002 Jay Bee
March 2004 JohnT
March 2001 Lancer
March 2001 Lazarus and the Gimp (AKA: Ron Jeremy, Bugs ****ing Bunny, Trappist)
January 2003 Locutus
December 2000 Mao
December 2000 MarkG
December 2000 MichaeltheGreat [Another OT Moderator]
December 2000 MikeH
December 2000 Ming [The OT Moderator]
June 2001 Monk
December 2003 notyoueither
December 2003 oedo
January 2003 orange
June 2002 paiktis22
May 2003 Paul
December 2000 Provost Harrison (AKA AI)
March 2002 rah [Yet another OT moderator]
December 2001 Ramo
December 2003 Reismark
December 2000 Roland
December 2004 Samson
March 2004 Scouse Gits
December 2003 Scouse Gits (2)
August 2002 Sirotnikov
December 2002 Slowwhand
December 2001 Snapcase
June 2001 SnowFire
September 2004 Solo
September 2004 Spiffor
June 2001 Starchild
June 2001 Stefu
January 2001 Stewart Spink
December 2000 St Leo
June 2001 SuperSneak
December 2003Tazidude
June 2002 TCO (AKA GP)
May 2003 Trip
December 2003 UnOrthOdOx
March 2004 War4Ever
December 2001 Wraith
March 2002 Velociryx
March 2002 yin26
December 2000 Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
June 2002 Xin Yu
May 2003 Zylka
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2) No Dates; Alphabetically:
Adam Smith
Alexander's Horse
alexman
Asher
Boris Godunox
Boshko
chegitz guevara
Chris 62
DanQ
DanS
DinoDoc
Ecthelion
El Awrence
*End is Forever*
EVC
faded glory
Giant Squid
Googlie
Imran Siddiqui
ixnay
Jay Bee
JohnT
Kramsib
KrazyHorse
Lancer
Lazarus and the Gimp
Locutus
Mao
MarkG
Michael the Great
MikeH
Ming
Monk
notyoueither
oedo
orange
paiktis22
Paul
Provost Harrison
rah
Ramo
Reismark
Roland
Samson
Scouse Gits
Scouse Gits(2)
sirotnikov
Slowwhand
Snapcase
SnowFire
Solo
Spiffor
Starchild
Stefu
Stewart Spink
St Leo
SuperSneak
Tazidude
TCO
Trip
UnOrthOdOx
Velociryx
War4Ever
Wraith
Xin Yu
yin26
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
Zylka
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3) Chronologically
MarkG Automatic Inductee
DanQ Automatic Inductee
Ming December 2000
MikeH December 2000
MichaeltheGreat December 2000
Mao December 2000
Alexander's Horse December 2000
Giant_Squid December 2000
Provost Harrison December 2000
Roland December 2000
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey December 2000
St. Leo December 2000
Imran Siddiqui January 2001
Stewart Spink January 2001
Lancer March 2001
Ron Jeremy/Lazarus and the Gimp March 2001
*End is Forever*March 2001
Boshko March 2001
EVC/Thorn June 2001
Monk June 2001
Snowfire June 2001
Starchild June 2001
SuperSneak June 2001
Stefu June 2001
Adam Smith December 2001
chegitz guevara December 2001
Ramo December 2001
Snapcase December 2001
Wraith December 2001
rah March 2002
yin26 March 2002
Ecthelion March 2002
Jay Bee March 2002
Velociryx March 2002
Xin Yu June 2002
TCO/GP June 2002
paiktis22 June 2002
Chris 62 August 2002
Sirotnikov August 2002
KrazyHorse December 2002
Asher December 2002
Slowwhand December 2002
orange January 2003
Locutus January 2003
Trip May 2003
Paul May 2003
DinoDoc May 2003
Zylka May 2003
Tazidude Posthumous Inductee
faded glory Posthumous Inductee
Scouse Gits(2) Posthumous Inductee
oedo December 2003
Boris Godunov December 2003
ixnay December 2003
Reismark December 2003
UnOrthOdOx December 2003
DanS December 2003
notyoueither December 2003
JohnT March 2004
Scouse Gits March 2004
War4Ever March 2004
El Awrence September 2004
Spiffor September 2004
Solo September 2004
Alexman September 2004
Samson December 2004
Googlie December 2004
Kramsib December 2004
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4) Sorted by Year Registered
1998 (27)
Ming
MarkG
Imran Siddiqui
*End is Forever*
DanQ
Jay Bee
St. Leo
Snowfire
Starchild
rah
GP/TCO
Xin Yu
MichaeltheGreat
Giant_Squid
Monk
Reismark
Boshko
Stefu
ixnay
Adam Smith
DanS
Lazarus and the Gimp
War4Ever
alexman
Stewart Spink
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey
1999 (20)
JohnT (Mar 1999)
Paul (Mar 1999)
Velociryx (April 1999)
Lancer (April 1999)
yin26 (April 1999)
Googlie (April 1999)
MikeH (May 1999)
Mao (June 1999)
Wraith (Aug 1999)
DinoDoc (sept 1999)
Slowwhand (Sept 1999)
El Awrence (Sept 1999)
Ramo (Oct 1999)
Asher (Nov 1999)
Locutus (Nov 1999)
Scouse Gits (Nov 1999)
Tazidude (?)
Snapcase
Roland
EVC/Thorn (1999)
2000 (9)
Provost Harrison (Feb 2000)
oedo (Feb 2000)
Sirotnikov (Feb 2000)
orange (Feb 2000)
Ecthelion (Mar 2000)
Zylka (May 2000)
chegitz guevara (june 2000)
SuperSneak (June 2000)
paiktis22 (Oct 2000)
2001 (9)
Chris 62 (jan 2001)
Solo (jan 2001)
faded glory (Jan 2001)
samson (April 2001)
Frogger/Krazy Horse (may 2001)
Boris Godunov (aug 2001)
notyoueither (aug 2001)
Kramsib (Sept 2001)
Spiffor (?)
2002 (2)
Trip (april 2002)
UnOrthOdOx (June 2002)
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5) Information About the Hall of Famer’s
Information Courtesy: The Apolyton 100
MarkG - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend.
DanQ - Founder of the site and maintainer. He has created numerous scripts for the site; uploaded data and dealt with troubles, all the while still finding the time to post in the Civ II sections and play Civ. A true legend. Check out his Faces of Apolyton Interview Here.
Ming - OT moderator. Benevolent and kind. Civ II Mper and Civ II poster. He keeps order on the site and posts a lot in the OT. Check out his Faces of Apolyton Interview Here.
MikeH - AC-Player; now best known for his Off-topic postings. He now resides at CounterGlow.
MichaeltheGreat - Off topic moderator. Civ II player.
Mao - OT poster, he also posted in the Civ II sections until Aug 2000 when he faded from the forums
EVC - Humorous. Slightly offensive. Well-known for micronationalism; crazed antics. OT regular until his permabanning
Giant Squid - Old Mod-Maker for Civ II and poster on the forums since almost their inception. Best known for Apolyton Micronationalism.
Provost Harrison - AC poster, OT poster, ubiquitious poster. Provost is best known for his off-topic exploits.
Roland - Apolyton economist and financial wizard
Yo_Yo_Yo_Hey - Co-Founded of The Alpha Centauri Nexus (more popular than ACN's SMAC section at the game's peak).
St. Leo - Currently hangs out and promotes the Scenario League. He used to be one of the more important Civ II posters.
Imran Siddiqui- For a time, he was the ACS News Editor. He was a heavy poster back in the old days. Civ II poster. Civ III-ideas poster and contributor to “The List” Now he generally hangs out in the Off-Topic and runs the Fantasy Baseball League. He enjoyed the old Story-Threads and contributed to many of them.
Stewart Spink - Humor. Spam. OT. Discussions. He was an Apolyton staff member at one time. He maintained the Civ II Top Ten Scoring list and some other things. He also had his own Civ II site.
Lancer - Well known for his charitable Karen Mills threads about the family in the Phillipines and the Apolyton House. He is also well known for his many invaluable Civ II contribuitions. He also created the Apolytoner of the Season contests. See his Faces of Apolyton Interview HERE
Ron Jeremy- Humorous/Cynical Apolytoner. An old Civ II-er, he now hangs out in the OT.
*End is Forever* - Very interested in music. OT-er.
Boshko- OT-er. Big in political threads
Monk - OT-er.
"Monk is a Dane who comes from Denmark. His name isn't Rasmussen, which means he can't become the prime minister, but he can still become an astronaut, a lion tamer or otherwise famed for his cocksmanship. He has posted in Apolyton for a very very very very very long time but hasn't yet died or been severely incapacitated, and can gallop merrily through voluminous fields of sunflowers. I once had a Monk in my left big toe, but it slowly got better. In conclusion, the world isn't usually harmed by his presence, and this essay has 100 words now." -Contribuited by Stefu
Snowfire - Great contribuiter to The List for Civ III… One of the threadmasters for the Civ III list.
Stefu - STEFU! Finnish OT-er! Very humorous. Check out his Faces of Apolyton Interview Here.
Adam Smith - Financial wizard. Economist. Used to be big in the Civ II sections; he now solicits financial advice in the OT.
chegitz guevara - Communist… You guessed it… Theben’s brother. Currently lives in Florida. Well known for his remarkably Left-wing viewpoints.
Ramo - Another Libertarian/Anarchist. Yet Another Texan named Omar. Off-Topic debator.
Snapcase - Hacker, OT-er, and in charge of the Apolyton News.
Wraith - Social Libertarian. OT-er. Anime fan. MORE INFORMATION NEEDED
rah - Major Civ II Mper, brother of Ming and current moderator of the OT. He also posts in the Civ II general section.
yin26- - South Korean master of THE LIST for Civ III! Yin26 used to be moderator of the Civ III section until he decided that he didn’t like Civ III… And for all newbies- you can relate his vitriolic statements about Alpha Centauri to Coracle’s whining about Civ III! However, returning to the more important information: yin 26’s listmastering tasks are not to be underestimated- he sorted thorough THOUSANDS of posts to find the best to submit to Firaxis in that huge 200 to 400-or-so page sacred document that is: THE LIST.
Ecthelion- - Deutsche-Spam. Prominent OT-er known for his humor. Formerly known as Andz83 and ChaosWarrior, Ecthelion originally posted in the Civilization II section. History happens to be one of his favorite topics.
Jay Bee- - Current moderator of the Spanish Civilization II section of the Forums. He is also the genial head of the Spanish Civilization II Site; an excellent site with many varied Spanish-setting scenarios. Jay Bee has been with Apolyton almost since its inception, being one of the first 4 people to register on the forums; right behind the venerable MarkG, DanQ and DarthVeda.
Velociryx - Current head of the Candle’bre project, a project centered around creating a free 4x and massively multiplayer game a la Trade Empires. Vel is also the published author of a recently (July 2002) released Mystery. He also published a strategy guide for Sid Meier’s Alpha Centauri and Alien Crossfire. He is a former AC-Fiction author and frequent AC-contributor. He was nce voted Apolytoner of the Season for the entire site. More information can be found in the Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
Xin Yu - Civ II strategy master and MPer. More information can be found in his Faces of Apolyon Interview by Solver
GP/TCO- Best known for his proponency of the “Branching Thread” format; GP is a former Navy Crewman who happens to be a frequent debater and frequenter of the Apolyton Off-Topic; he has also, in the past, visited the Civ II section, giving hints and advice. Currently (as of Nov 2002) he is under one of his asked for ‘bans-from-Apolyton’ so that he is not tempted to post
paiktis22- PLEASE CONTRIBUTE INFORMATION; Apolyton OT-er and former Civ III-ideas and Civ II regular.
Chris62 - He frequents the Spanish Civilization II, Scenario League, OT, General, Multiplayer website forums.
Sirotnikov Humorous. Defends Israel in the OT (since he lives in Israel). Mostly known for his OT work, although he does make some forays into the Civ-community
KrazyHorse/Frogger Large OT poster and debater... and sometimes poster in the Civ II sections
Asher Prominent and loyal Oter
Slowwhand OT and Civ II poster and Multiplayer.
Locutus CTP/CTP2 Ladder/MP, modmaking and CTP/CTP2 moderatorialship fame. Check out his Faces of Apolyton interview http://apolyton.net/misc/interviews...2locutus.shtml”>Here.
orange The poster of Apolyton Yearbook fame! A valued OTer and former civ II and CivIII-civilizations section poster!
Trip An honorable Demogamer, and the starter of the Civ III Demo-Game... as well as a major player in the Civ III PTW demogames and the ISDG... Trip embodies all things demogame. He also had some of the most popular Civ III scenarios; Civil War and Napoleoanic Wars.
DinoDoc Conservative debater in the OT. High Profile Poster. Been around and contribuited for a long time.
Paul CTP modder and designer as well as MPer. OCC God, he created many strategies for it. Paul is also the organizer of various football prediction leagues in the OT. A long staple of the community
Zylka One of those loveable OT-spammers/debators/flamers. The OT always loves their entertainiment. and entertainment is important in keeping users interested in the forums. Therefore, he deserves his position here.
old time Civ player who was a very active member of this site, and one of original Civ II PM players also be included.
Reismark Founder of the Hodadian Award Central, gifting awards to the best Civ-Sites on the Net and the best Civ II scenarios around! He also runs the Apolyton Fantasy Football Challenge and several other contests in the OT.
oedo Discoverer of the “oedo years,” the discovery “that the period of disorder in Civ 2 for revolutions follows a pattern, and by knowing this pattern, you know when to revolt to eliminate the period of anarchy” oedo is well known and respected in the Civ II-Strategy community for this discovery that taught those of us who “thought we knew civ” that there was more to it than we “thought we knew.”
ixnay Humorous poster; Participant in the Civ II Democracy Game, he’s a real whiz with photoshop and graphics; and happens to be the Rise of Nation’s content editor... and is an Apolyton Staff member.
Boris Godunov Friendly OT debater. Much loved.
UnOrthOdOx For his work on the "Jungle Gazette" and other Democracy game publications... as well as his work on the democracy games themselves.
DanS OT Poster and debater. Armchair Economist.
notyoueither Civ III Democracy Gamer and consul in the Intersite Democracy Game. He is also involved in the Civ III multiplayer tourney ladder and can be seen in the Off-Topic as well as a multitude of other places on the Apolyton Civilization Site.
JohnT Former Apolyton Librarian, starter and keeper of the Apolyton SciFi book reading club, volumnious OT contribuitor, and former Civ II poster
Scouse Gits Co-founder of the Great Library project for civ II, Civ II strategist, Civ II poster
War4Ever Civ II MP-Player and occasional OT Poster, and Civ II poster
El Awrence Formerly known as Hodad, this Spanish Section Apolytoner was quite active in all of the Civ II sections and contributior to the Diplomacy games forum. He also frequented the OT in 2000 and provided fun in debates and other activities therein. He was also one of the founding members of the Spanish Civilization Forum. In recent years he has been most active in that section.
Spiffor Civ3 player and all round nice OT Regular. Also French... and you know how hard it is to find a respectable Frenchman... 
Solo Solo has long been active in CivII strategy forum and is the author of the Early Landing Strategy Guide. In addition to that, he discovered 16 turn city cycles governing automatic changes in city commodity supply and demand lists, and discovered numerous techniques to manipulate city commodity supply and demand, along with other strategic contributions to the Civ II community.
alexman Renowned for his excellent civ III contributions, Alexman is generally considered a strategic Guru due to his essential formulae and his tireless work in the Apolyton University including helping develop the Apolyton University Mod. He is also quite active in Civ III PBEM and created the CTP utility ‘EasyMod’
Samson Quality Great Library Contribuitor for Civ II and well-known civ II strategy researcher.
Samson quickly became the premier researcher in the Civ II community and authored numerous definitive studies on almost every aspect of the game. In particular, the depth of insight he displayed by his “key civ” discovery and his unravelling of how commodity lists are determined was, to put it simply, just amazing. Having set numerous records in a wide range of single player games, he was considered by most to be the best player, too. -Writeup partially in thanks to solo.
Kramsib His greatest works have been carried out in the Spanish Comunity. He is the "Father and Protector" of Progressive Games, an amazing tournament for civers to play without multiplayer mode.
Here is an example of a Progressive Game: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...hreadid=120672. He also created a Graphics Mod and a Combat mod for Civ III and is working on developing game-model theories based on Civ III's Corruption and Value theories.
Googlie A well-known co-author of the epic Spartan Chronicles for AC, AC-fiction in general, and expert AC Diplomacy gamer, Googlie helped set up the 12-game Forum Wars series of a couple of years ago between Apolyton, ACOL and Civgaming as well as a couple of dozen individual game challenges.
His love affair with SMAC goes back to old OWO forums and the demo release days when a bunch of us hacked the HEX editor to squeeze more than the 100 turns from that old demo version.
Tazidude
Posthumous Induction
Obituary Courtesy Ming
“Tazidude was a very active member of this site, and one of original Civ II MP players.”
“He fought a long battle with cancer and passed away in January of 2000. While suffering with his illness, he used Civ II MP as an escape and a distraction. Even with death looking him right in the face, he continued to post and play... He was a friend to many... a great competitor... and it was truly sad when he finally had to leave the community because the pain got to be too much.”
d. january 2000
Scouse Gits(2)
Posthumous Induction
Obituary Courtesy La Fayette
Scouse Gits(2), or Ivor Wason was primarily a Civ II MP gamer who succumbed to cancer in 2003. He was much loved and well-regarded in the Civ II community.
“I would like to say a few words about what Ivor brought us, because he was not only a witty writer and a very strong strategist, but also one of those who gave most to the community, much more than the smiling daily 'robust constructive criticism' that all of us will remember:
-Co-author of the most thorough study about starting techs (more than 5000 starts)
-Co-creator of Apolyton's Great Library”
-'Very early lander', especially on big maps (samson and solo had almost specialized into small maps, when Ivor advised solo to have a look at some of his saves on bigger maps, and that was the starting point of solo's strategy guide)
d. september 2003
faded glory
Posthumous Induction
Obituary Courtesy Keygen
“I remember him when he joined his first CtP PBEM game. He was a good and faithfull ally to the end and I had good time playing with him.
He was a very social, stuborn and eccentric person but he had a great heart as well.”
d. october 2003
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NOTE: You may vote here, but the full voting results will only be guaranteed to be published in the following thread:
OT: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=134650
Have a good time!
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La Fayette, Slow Thinker, Cavebear.
RJM at Sleeper's
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Originally posted by Peaster
Elefant once got on my case for spelling samson as Samson, so now I am very careful about spelling. |
Don't think it was me - I'm unclear what the issue was. Might have been LaFayette, or SG...
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albi, france
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DaveV, SlowThinker, Bloody Monk
(unfortunately BM seems to have stopped posting 3 months ago and many of us know that his health was far from perfect; BM I salute you!)
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Originally posted by La Fayette
DaveV, SlowThinker, Bloody Monk
(unfortunately BM seems to have stopped posting 3 months ago and many of us know that his health was far from perfect; BM I salute you!) |
Once you DaveV & ST are in, BM gets onto my list, too. Last post I saw by BM was 4/15/05, about 2 months ago, but I think I spotted him browsing a few times since then.
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Phila PA
Aug 2002
time: 00:35
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Anybody in direct email contact with Bloody Monk? He and SG have been scarce around here lately. I hope I don't read about him next in an obit...
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DarkCloud
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of Lists
Jul 2000
time: 05:35
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Thank you all for voting! Here's an update!
1) Current Standings (The Previous Votes’ add-ins are in brackets) a
These are all the people who made the last List, but were not elected.
(129 posters in the election)
1. Ted Striker- (19) (38) (83) 91—231
2. DarkCloud- {26} [30] (37) (54) 37—184
3. Immortal Wombat- [37] (21) (23) ( 40) 34—156
Berzerker- [7] (23) (43) (41) 23—137
Dr Strangelove- [18] (14) (20)(52) 32---136
Master Zen- [26] (20) (36) (33) 19—133
Theseus- [12] (25) (35) (33) 24—129
loinburger- [4] (18) (22)(38) 45----127
Paddy the Scot- (25) (33) (42) 27---127
Yaroslav- [27] (18) (13) (52) 9—121
10. Jasev- [31] (16) (16) (42) 5—110
Harlan- [27] (19) (13) (41) 7--- 107
WesW- [16] (30) (24) (23) 7--100
La Fayette- [4] (13) (30) (30) 20----97
Fez/Giancarlo- [12] (29) (18)(17) 7-- 94
Skanky Burns-[15] (17) (23) (20) 15—91
OzzyKP- [9] (19) (18) (30) 12----88
Pekka- [3] (10) (16) (30) 20 ---79
Kassiopeia- [10] (10) (17) (25) 17---79
Dominae- [4] (19) (27) (15) 7—74
Dr Spike- [13] (7) (20) (29) 4—73
Molly Bloom- [12] (2) (14) (16) 28---71
Jamski- [9] (16) (20) (14) 11---70
SlowThinker-(9) (6) (22) 24---61
Alinestra Covelia [14] (10) (14)(18) 3---59
Ogie Oglethorpe- [6] (7) (15) (15) 16---58
MLeonard- -----[14] (10) (15)(10) 8---57
MrFun- [7] (11) (10) (13) 15---56
Hexagonian- [5] (6) (20) (14) 8---53
korn469- ---- [11] (16) (9) (9) 8—53
Togas- [16] (20) (11)(5)---52
deity- [10] (8) (7) (16) 11------52
Sagacious Dolphin/Big Crunch/Dauphin- [19] (11) (9) (4) 8—52
Aeson- [2] (3) (3) (16) 25—49
Mr. Ogre- [36] (6) (3) (3)---48
Urban Ranger- [29] (6) (6) (3) 4---48
Beta- [14] (3) (10) (11) 10---48
Malevolent Light- [8] (14) (17)( 8)—47
Arrian [4] (12) (8) (10) 13---47
MrWhereItsAt- [14] (16) (4) (10) 3---47
DaveV- (22) 24---46
Agathon---[3] (4) (11) (9) 18----45
Sn00py- [10] (6) (7) (8) 12---44
vmxa1---[3] (12) (8)(16) 3—42
Zeus_of_Olimpos- [4] (25) (4) (4) 4---41
Tiamat- (14) (13) (10) 4---41
Techumseh- [11] (4) (8) (15) 3---41
Oerdin- [9] (3) (8) (13) 4----37
Solver- (13) (8) (12) 4---37
Darsnan- (5) (31)---36
Shi Huangdi- [10] (13) (10)( 2)---35
cavebear- [10] (8) (2) (4) 10—34
GePap- [6] (2) (10) (8) 7---33
Mercator- (8) (20) 4----32
Az (Azazel) (Dalgetti)- [6] (12) (10) (3)---31
vondrack- [3] (10) (2) (15)--30
Snowflake/HongHu- [1] (3) (13) (11)---28
ChrisiusMaximus- [3] (10) (9) (3) 3---28
Drake Tungsten- (12) (8) 8----28
Lefty Scaevola- (11) (4) (12)---27
Wittlich- [6] (14) (3) (3)---26
Dissident- (11) (10) 4----25
Comrade Tassadar- [4] (10) (5) (5)---24
CivNation (AKA DefensorFidei)- [8] (4) (4)(4) 4---24
Theben- (7) (6) (8)----21
fairline- (8) (10) 3---20
mindseye- (2) (3) (7) 7---19
Sikander- (12) 7---19
Rommel2D- (12) (6)---18
Kaak- [6] (1) (4) (3) 4---18
joncha- (2) (3) (5) 7—17
Post Count Zero- [4] (4) (4)(4)---16
PLATO- [3] (7) (3) (3)—16
Ned- (10) (6)---16
SKILORD- [3] (8) (2)(2)---15
Ljube- (7) (7)---14
DeepO- (2) (7) 5---14
finbar- [3] (2) (3) (5)—13
Ari Rahikkala- (3) (10)---13
David Floyd- (13)
Buster- (3) (10)---13
curtsibling- (4) (7) 2---13
Aqualung71- (7) (5)---12
Drogue- [4] (2) (4) (2)---12
Hydro- (5) (7)---12
Jaguar- (2) (3) (2) 5---12
Flubber- (8) 4---12
Blake- (4) (4) 4---12
Exile- (6) (5)---11
Makeo- (3) (7)---10
Kody- [1] (3) (4) (2)—10
Bongo- (3) (3) (3)----9
GeoModder- (4) (5)---9
Rasbelin- (2) (4) 3----9
Heresson- (2) (5) 2—9
Japher- (6) 3----9
Harry Tuttle-(6) 3----9
alva- (4) (2) (2)---8
Niessuh- (2) (2)(4)—8
EyesofNight-7
nbarclay- (4) (3)---7
BeBro- 7
100. Ben Kenobi- (2) (4) 1-----7
Wigalf- (3) (3)—6
Whaleboy- (3) (3)--6
Adaigo- (3) (3)---6
Guynemer- (4) (2)---6
Kuciwalker- (6)
ancyrean- (3) 3----6
Kidicious- (3) 3---6
Martin Gühmann- (3)(2)--5
Serb- (3) (2)---5
Darekill- 5
Jim Panse--- 5
Rhothaerill- (2) 3---5
UberKrux- (4)
shawnmcb- (4)
The Emperor Fabulous- 4
Zkribbler- 4
stankarp- 4
Ancryean- 4
GodKing- (2) 2---4
Chaos Theory- 4
Jon Miller- 4
Mrs. Tuberski- 4
Bloody Monk- 4
Magno_uy- 5
Harry- 3
Chilean President- 3
Smiley- 3
Sprayber- 3
Voltaire- 3
1889- 3
Frustrated Poet- 3
Sparrowhawk- (3)
Tau Ceti- (3)
Sava- (3)
Duke o'york- (3)
Drakkan- 2
Astrologix- 2
Gosties- 2
Gerar Dean- 2
E_T- 2
Agricola 2
Method- (2)
Cort Haus- (2)
Wernazuma III- (2)
J Bytheway- (2)
Peter Triggs- (2)
Fromafar- (2)
Tuberski- 1
2) Who voted for Whom
(over xxx posters have voted)
Agathon voted for : Molly Blom (3), Ted Striker (3), Berzerker (3)
ajbera voted for Ted Striker (4), Dr Strangelove (4), Immortal Wombat (4)
Alexander's Horse voted for: Ted Striker (4), Theben (4), Dr Strangelove (4)
alexman voted for: Aeson (4), Dominae (4), Theseus (4)
alva voted for: Aeson (3), Sn00py (3), Frustrated Poet (3)
Ancryean voted for: Heresson (2), Molly Bloom (2), Dr Strangelove (2)
Andemagne voted for: DarkCloud (4), Pekka (4), Kassiopeia (4)
Aqualung71 voted for: Paddy the Scot (3), Theseus (3), 1889 (3)
Ari Rahikkala voted for: Ted Striker (4), Kassiopeia (4), stankarp (4)
Asher voted for: Ted Striker (4), DarkCloud (4), loinburger (4)
asleepatthewheel voted for: Master Zen (3), Aeson (3), Darekill (3)
atawa voted for: Deity (3), Cavebear( 3), EyesofNight (#)
Az voted for: Arrian (4), Ted Striker (4), Pekka (4)
BeBro voted for: Loinburger (4), Molly BLoom (4), Ted Striker (4)
boann voted for: berzerker (4), kaak (4), Cavebear (4)
Boris Godunov voted for: Ted Striker (3), Immortal Wombat (3), loinburger (3)
Chilean President voted for: Jasev (3), Yaroslav (3), Master Zen (3)
Cold Wizard voted for: Berzerker (4), OzzyKP (4), Jamski (4)
Comrade Tassadar voted for: Joncha (3), Jaguar (3), Volatire (3)
curtsibling voted for: Harry Tuttle (3), fairline (3), Jim Panse (3)
DanS voted for: Dr Strangelove (4), Dr Spike (4), Drake Tungsten (4)
DarkCloud voted for: korn469 (4), Master Zen (4), Urban Ranger (4)
Dauphin voted for: Dissident (4), GePap (4), DarkCloud (4)
DAVOUT voted for: Molly Bloom (3), GePap (3), Japher (3)
Dissident voted for: Chaos Theory ($), Mrs. Tuberski (4), Berzerker (4)
Drake Tungsten voted for: Arrian (3), loinburger (3), Sikander (3)
Drogue voted for: Rasbelin (3), Kassiopeia (3), Jamski (3)
Dr Strangelove voted for: Mr Fun (4), Oerdin (4), loinburger (4)
Ecthelion voted for: DarkCloud (4), Ted Striker (4), Immortal Wombat (4)
eklektikos voted for: Loinburger (3), Aeson (3), Theseus (3)
Elephant voted for: La Fayette (3), DaveV (3), SlowThinker (3)
Ennet voted for: Master Zen (3), MrWhereItsAt (3), Rhothaerill (3)
Frankychan voted for: Agathon (3), Sprayber (3), Ted Striker (3)
GePap voted for: vmxa1 (3), Techumseh (3), Dr. Strangelove (3)
Gerar Dean voted for: Chilean President (3), Harry (3), Magno_uy (3)
Gigante Verde voted for: Drakkan (2), Magno_uy (2), Astrologix (2)
Grigor voted for: SlowThinker (4), Dave V (4), Lafayette (4)
Harry voted for: Gerar Dean (2), Magno_uy (2), Gosties (2)
Harry Tuttle voted for: Curt Sibling (2), Jim Panse (2), Agricola (2)
hexagonian voted for: Solver (4), Immortal Wombat (4), WesW (4)
ixnay voted for: Ted Striker (4), Immortal Wombat (4), loinburger (4)
Jaguar voted for: Skanky Burns (4), Joncha (4), Kassiopeia (4)
JohnT voted for: Agathon (4), loinburger (4), Ted Striker (4)
joncha voted for: Ted Striker (2), Kassiopeia (2), JAguar (2)
Jon Miller voted for: Zeus_of_Olimpos (4), CivNation (4), Beta (4)
Kassiopeia voted for: Immortal Wombat (3), Alinestra Covelia (3), Skanky Burns (3)
Kidicious voted for: Dr. Strangelove (2), Agathon (2), loinburger (2)
korn469 voted for: Ted Striker (4), DarkCloud (4), Pekka (4)
Krazy Horse voted for: Ted Striker (3), Loinburger (3), Dr. Strangelove (3)
Krill voted for: DeepO (2), Aeson (2), Theseus (2)
Kuciwalker voted for: Ted Striker (3), Dr. Strangelove (3), MrFun (3)
La Fayette voted for: DaveV (4), SlowThinker (4), Bloody Monk (4)
Lancer voted for: Zkribbler (4), Theben (4), Ted Striker (4)
Last Conformist voted for: Arrian (2), Ted Striker (2), Agathon (2)
Lawrence of Arabia voted forL Spiffor (3), Fez (3), Kidicious (3)
*Lazarus and the Gimp voted for mindseye (4), molly bloom (4), Skanky Burns (4)
Maquiladora voted for: Immortal Wombat (3), Harlan (3), WesW (3)
Master Zen voted for: GerarDean (2), Ghilean President (2), Darekill (2)
Ming voted for: Berzerker (4), OzzyKP ($), Dr. Strangelove (4)
molly bloom voted for: Agathon (3), BeBro (3), mindseye (3)
Monk voted for: Harlan
MrFun voted for: Molly Bloom (4), The Emperor Fabulous (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4)
Mrs. Tuberski voted for: Tuberski (1), Ted STriker (1), Ben Kenobi (1)
N35t0r voted for: Master Zen (4), Yaroslav (4), Mercator (4)
Ned voted for: Pekka (4), Blake (4), Ogie (4)
Niessuh voted for :MAster Zen (2), Jasev (2), Yaroslav (2)
Oerdin voted for: Ted Striker (3), Immorta Wombat (3), loinburger (3)
Ogie Oglethorpe voted for: Drake Tungsten (4), Sikander (4), Mr Fun (4)
ormuzd voted for: Paddy the Scot (2), E_T (2), GodKing (2)
OzzyKP voted for: Berzerker (4), EyesofNight (4), Deity (4)
paiktis22 voted for: BeBro (4), Ancryean (4), Jon Miller (4)
Peaster voted for: LaFayette (2), SlowThinker (2), DaveV (2)
Pekka voted for: Ted Striker (3)
PLATO voted for: Paddy the Scot (3), ChrisiusMaximus (3), DarkCloud (3)
Platypus Rex voted for: DarkCloud (3), Sn00py (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Provost Harrison voted for: Dauphin (4), Agathon (4), Ted Striker (4)
Ramo voted for: molly blom (4), Ted Striker (4), loinburger (4)
Rasputin voted for: Paddy the Scot (4), Deity (4), OzzyKP (4)
rjmatsleepers voted for: La Fayette (3), Slow Thinker (3), Cavebear (3)
Rotheaerill voted for: Beta (2), Theseus (2), Paddy the Scot (2)
Sabre2th voted for: Theseus (4), Aeson (4), Paddy the Scot (4)
self biased voted for: Jamski (4), Ted Striker (4), Skanky Burns (4)
Sikander voted for: Ogie Oglethorpe (4), molly blom (4),flubber (4)
Sir Ralph voted for: Ted Striker (3), Theseus (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Sirotnikov voted for: Korn469 (4), Sn00py (4), Pekka (4)
solo voted for: LaFayette (3), SlowThinker (3), DaveV (3)
Solver voted for: DarkCloud (4), Immortal Wombat (4), Hexagonian (4)
Sparrowhawk voted for: La Fayette (4), Slow Thinker (4), DaveV (4)
Spiffor voted for: Dr. Strangelove (3), Ancyrean (3), Smiley (#)
StarBegotten voted for: Sn00py (3), DarkCloud (3), Immortal Wombat (3)
Stefu voted for: Ted Striker (4), loinburger (4), DarkCloud (4)
Stupor Man voted for: La Fayette (1), SlowThinker (1), DaveV (1)
The Emperor Fabulous voted for: MLeonard (4), Ted Striker (4), Fez (4)
Theseus voted for: Aeson (3), DeepO (3), Paddy the Scot (3)
Velociryx voted for: Hexagonian (4), Ogie Oglethorpe (4), Arrian (4)
vmxa1 voted for: Aeson (3), Dominae (3), Theseus (3)
Wittlich voted for: Tiamat (4), MrFun (4), Beta (4)
Zopperoni voted for: Ted Striker (4), Dauphin (4), MLeonard (4)
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Zenon
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La Fayette, SlowThinker, DaveV
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Bloody Monk
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austin, tx
May 2001
time: 23:35
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@La Fayette, solo, and Elephant
Thanks fellows, very kind. You made me cry. Knock it off.
I am able to check in here at times, but I usually cannot manage posting. Most days the pain is overwhelming and I feel too weak to lift my head off the pillow. This condition has been progressing for a long time, but at least my mind still worked and I had Civ to focus on. (The doc actually said playing this game kept my mind from going the way of the physical.) But I have played my last turn in the days before Christmas, and I really think not being able to play is worse than everything else.. I used to have a near photographic memory, but now, when I try to remember something it feels like the retrieval system is snarled. (The files are still there but their headers have been stripped away.) I have always been an optimist and I still keep pumping myself up in anticipation of what is behind the next turn in the road, but I'm also looking forward to looking up Ivor for a game--hopefully some Friday night. (Big Grin)
No matter what comes, I have had a great run (57 yrs) and I had the great good fortune at the end to stumble onto Civ2 and this collection of fine fellows to enjoy it with. It has been swell sharing the trail with you all. Don't fret over my situation; I'm in a good place deep inside--if one can distinguish between the crashed car and the driver. My one last wish is that at the end I have enough snap left so that I can watch as the transition happens.
One More Turn
Monk
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DarkCloud
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Jul 2000
time: 05:35
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Bloody Monk,
I don't know what to say.
Our paths haven't crossed nearly as much as many of the PBEMers or strategy posters on these Civ II board sections, but I still feel from the few hundred posts of yours that I have read, and the few dozen which I have responded to, or to which you have responded- that you must definately, in real life, be a very great guy- just like Scouse Gits (2), and a lot of other posters here.
As I guess you've already seen with the posts above- you will be missed. And there will certainly be a nice, comfortable, and perpetual place in the hall for you- you will not be forgotten.
I am glad that you were able to find joy in a game and in this community and am inspired by your courage and acceptance in fighting and reconciling and taking pleasure in the joys and the good things in life.
Hopefully the afterlife is a lot like Civ I with it's 'Replay' option, and like Civ II with its endless replayability and happiness and joy.
Best Regards, Wishes, etc.,
-DarkCloud
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Zenon
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Monk,
I wish I could do more for you than just sending words. Your attitude shows great courage and I hope I will be able to follow your example when the situation comes one day.
I always felt honoured to join this forum with such a fine fellow as you. I am still hoping for the best and my thoughts are with you.
Zenon
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Monk,
The victory in the last demo game owed a great deal to you and your expertise in the game. We hope to start another game shortly and we shall miss your wise council.
Good luck on the road ahead.
RJM at Sleeper's
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