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jmp is offline jmp
Settler

Apr 2005
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Is there any chance that Civ4 will have the option of liberating a city? That is, let's say you're in a military alliance with another civ against a third civ. One of your ally's cities has been captured by your mutual enemy. You then capture the city. What if instead of just giving the options of destroying the city or installing your own governor, the game gave the option of returning the city to its previous owner? Likewise, the AI civs could return your cities to you upon liberating them from a mutual enemy. This would be the sort of thing that would happen in particularly strong alliances (and help keep very high goodwill between the two civs).

The real world example that comes to mind is US/English troops entering Paris at the end of both World Wars. The assumption when the troops entered the city was never that US occupation would replace German occupation. Rather, the US troops liberated the city, returning it to the French.

Just a thought...
-JMP

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really, you can do that in civ 3. just capture the city, and give it back through diplomacy.

jmp is offline jmp
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Apr 2005
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Yes, but the AI civs are loathe to give back cities that had been yours up until a few turns earlier, even if you want to trade a comparable city that had been theirs...
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M. le Comte is offline M. le Comte
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Last Aristocrat in Paris
Aug 2001
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Yes, very VERY good idea.

However, if this game is really about "civilizations" and not states, capturing a city and then giving it back is a non sense:
aren't we part of the American civilization since 1944 ?

No, just kidding

DerSchwarzfalke is offline DerSchwarzfalke
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This would be a very useful improvement to the overall gameplay of the Civilization series in general. I do not imagine it to be terribly difficult to program, and it adds an element of rewards for effectively utilizing alliances.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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Hopefully this will be achieved by enhancing the diplomacy AI.

EDIT: in fact, it might be pretty easy to make this happen automatically, given the editing options.

KyuuA4 is offline KyuuA4
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Jun 2005
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Try this solution: Don't lose your cities in the first place. Treat them like your children.

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That works too

DerSchwarzfalke is offline DerSchwarzfalke
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Jul 2002
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It also goes both ways. Allies have a greater tendency to lose their cities than I do

Generally, their recovered cities are of no great use to me, and I would rather just give them back to allies and strengthen them.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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In that case, you don't need special options or diplomacy AI or anything.

Ninot is offline Ninot
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Nov 2001
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maybe it should be coded/implemeneted simply so the AI can do it amongst themselves, instead of having a big mix of civs and cities after a big war in 1 region.

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quote:
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Try this solution: Don't lose your cities in the first place. Treat them like your children.



what.....in the corner and no dessert

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Jul 2002
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quote:
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Try this solution: Don't lose your cities in the first place. Treat them like your children.


Sorry, but I'm not taking a belt to my computer and I'm sure as hell not using my bare hand.

[/joke]

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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Dec 2002
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quote:
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Try this solution: Don't lose your cities in the first place. Treat them like your children.


Have too many cities as it is.

Platypus Rex is offline Platypus Rex

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Can you give it ridlin or prosac ? like they do here in the US (drugs)

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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Dec 2002
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I should try a few myself.

GeoModder is offline GeoModder
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Jan 2004
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The Doped Patriarch!

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Just pray Jackson doesn't ever buy Civ

DerSchwarzfalke is offline DerSchwarzfalke
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He'll find an entirely new use for the USB port.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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ewwww

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ewwww


* Lord Nuclear runs away.

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