07-06-2005 09:31									#1
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Does anyone want any rule changes ?
I dont think we have actually asked the question within our forum.

quote: Originally posted by emperor @ the UN Are there any rule changes that your team would like to see in the final round of the ISDG? If so, post them ALL in this thread - and we will organise further threads and polls according to what people require from there. The important thing right now is to get all ideas and opinions out into the open. 8) - emp

Here is the link to the UN Rules

ISDG Rules

	07-06-2005 13:26									#2
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I don't think so

the rules are too long for a reading and their are very detailed. Anyway there would be always questions and problems we could discuss with admins and other teams.

I say start th game at last!

	07-06-2005 14:07									#3
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I agree.


But I think some of the other teams are discussing changes.
Especially about "sharing" cities.
I think the other game shared a city that had a harbor so that they could upgrade ships. It put some noises out of joint.


But I would rather get going with the rules we have got.

	07-06-2005 17:33									#4
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The city sharing was kind of not appropriate, but then, it wasn't fully detailed in the rules stating that it wasn't allowed.

In this case, the rule is being refined and clarifed, so that either, it would be allowed or not in a game.

As are other rules that are being clarifed, because of some ambiguities. Do we know of any rules that need to be clarifed??

E_T

	07-06-2005 17:51									#5
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Teams are to present their idea's on the 11th.

We have to wait until then
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	08-06-2005 12:39									#6
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I do not remember there being any issues with round 1.

So indeed Game On

	08-06-2005 20:15									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot I do not remember there being any issues with round 1. So indeed Game On

	09-06-2005 03:22									#8
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Um, not to make trouble, but should there be any rules regarding victory conditions?

* Theseus ducks

	09-06-2005 03:28									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Um, not to make trouble, but should there be any rules regarding victory conditions? * Theseus ducks

Heh, you mean concerning joint victories?

	09-06-2005 05:55									#10
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Who would ever do such a thing?

	09-06-2005 08:29									#11
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There was some discussion about outlawing joint winners (i.e. a coalition win). I don't know were that discussion went to, but it was being considered.

Along with other things, like the Unit wall rule thing.

E_T

	09-06-2005 09:04									#12
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Should we propose them, officially?

	09-06-2005 09:45									#13
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I'd hate for us to be the team to ask for a rule that says "no joint victories." What team would then want to ally with us without that fact entering their minds?

I agree that a "joint victory" is not wanted in this particular game. Maybe we can propse that if two or more teams decide to "end" the game, then the team with the highest score is the winner and so on.

	09-06-2005 10:10									#14
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I agree that a "there can only be one" rule needs to be made. I don't see why we should be afraid to propose it either. I don't think it will make people think twice about an alliance any more than normal, and we were one of the two teams in our game to form the single long-lasting alliance in it.

	09-06-2005 10:24									#15
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If we want rule changes, then I suggest someone draft something up & have it ready to post at the UN.

All change requests have to be presented to the UN by the 11th. Then we get another couple of weeks for the teams to argue about it and come to a consensus.


eg.

In the event of a long term stalemate, and teams decide to not persue an in-game victory condition, then the surviving teams can conduct an out of game UN vote to choose a winner. If no team can achieve more than 50% of the vote, then the surviving team with the highest score shall be deemed the winner.

	10-06-2005 01:55									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel In the event of a long term stalemate, and teams decide to not persue an in-game victory condition, then the surviving teams can conduct an out of game UN vote to choose a winner. If no team can achieve more than 50% of the vote, then the surviving team with the highest score shall be deemed the winner.

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quote: Under no circumstances will more than one team be declared winner.

and I think we have a rule proposal. That sounds like a good rule to me, though whether there is an out-of-game UN vote may need to be polled with the teams as a seperate issue.

	10-06-2005 02:09									#17
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Any objections to posting this or changes to be made? If there are not in the next 30 hours or so, I move we propose this.

	10-06-2005 02:18									#18
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No objections from me.

	10-06-2005 06:03									#19
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nor me.

Perhaps drop the starting comment about about the "long term stalemate".
There may be other reasons why teams decide to not play anymore.
eg CIV is released and participation drops to 0.

	10-06-2005 07:13									#20
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No objections here.

	11-06-2005 03:04									#21
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Glad to see ND and GoW have established a precedent

	11-06-2005 11:54									#22
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So did Hitler. Don't be so proud of it.

	11-06-2005 12:45									#23
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Eta Tamali....hehe

	11-06-2005 15:47									#24
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ahhh this game is mad, mad I tell you

	11-06-2005 22:33									#25
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evo-games seems to be down.

I'll try again later, but I'm going to be busy playing tennis in about two hours; so if someone else could try to post this proposal if I can't, that would be good.

	11-06-2005 23:29									#26
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Still down.

If someone else is free this afternoon, please try to get this proposal up.

	12-06-2005 09:13									#27
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EVO is still down. I posted the request for a rule change on the old CDG UN forum.

	12-06-2005 23:48									#28
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Evo-games is up for me, so I reposted the rule addition there.

	13-06-2005 00:08									#29
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Thanks.