08-06-2005 09:20									#1
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I managed to take out two other civs on this continent early in the game and decided to set up a perimeter around the whole continent. All the civ's were roughly equally spaced and located on the coast so....

I figure if another civ lands on the continent and manages to build a city before I have the whole thing full of cities, they'll have to build inside my perimeter and hopefully the city will flip.

Is this a reasonable strategy ?

	08-06-2005 11:25									#2
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Interesting, but I'd never try counting on culture-flips in my strategy. Please let us know how it works out.

	08-06-2005 11:27									#3
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It really depends on how you have your borders set. If you've completely cut off access to the interior of the continent by spacing cities all of the coastlines, then you can effectively keep every other civ off "your land". Unless they're there to invade you and take "your land", then the point is pretty much moot. Do you have a save that could help us out here?

	08-06-2005 11:34									#4
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Reminds me of the Roman siege of Vercingitorax. Your idea would be easier if you had Railroads.

	08-06-2005 15:38									#5
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good value in some cases, banned in some pbem games and actively persued in others

yet watch out for berzerkers and marines

	08-06-2005 19:39									#6
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Just shadow any ships with a few units. They will not be able to land and hence cannot settle.

If they have amphip, then it will be a declaration of war and you can kill any that land.

	08-06-2005 21:47									#7
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This is when having 50 scouts laying around is actually useful...they don't count for support, and can block over units...

	10-06-2005 10:30									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Reminds me of the Roman siege of Vercingitorax. Your idea would be easier if you had Railroads.

Now *that* is great history... I forget the Latin name for it, but Caesar was laying siege upon Vercingetorix, and yet had to worry about an oncoming Gallic force; he had his troops build an 11 mile (I think) fortification around Alesia, and then DOUBLED it with an outer wall. Friggin' genius!

Caesar understood Civ3 over 2000 years ago: A great warmonger starts as a great builder.

	10-06-2005 11:36									#9
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Caesar was as bold as he was brilliant (and lucky). How many people could have pulled off a siege while under siege himself?

	10-06-2005 13:30									#10
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ahhh yes he was lucky... yet a great trait for the true leaders of our history


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	11-06-2005 08:41									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus A great warmonger starts as a great builder.

And vice versa.

	20-06-2005 22:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Interesting, but I'd never try counting on culture-flips in my strategy. Please let us know how it works out.

I would like to humbly disagree. Early on, I ALWAYS build a city right up against another civ's outer cities. This stops their expansion and if I get a good lead on them, they eventually flip (best so far, Nuremburg, pop. 12 flipped to my side). I have had a couple cities flip to the other side, but I almost always got them back. While I don't rely on flipping 100%, I do take that chance every time and the gamble usualy pays off.
Of course, this is at the chieftain level

	21-06-2005 00:06									#13
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Play on Regent, or Monarch, or higher, and culture flips will rarely happen...

My last game as Greece, I only had 2 cities in the entire game flip, both of them to me...I had the same culture as the rest of the world combined, and had IIRC 6 GWs, and I was only in the middle of the middle ages...