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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/08/p...artner=homepage

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Bush Aide Softened Greenhouse Gas Links to Global Warming

By ANDREW C. REVKIN
Published: June 8, 2005

A White House official who once led the oil industry's fight against limits on greenhouse gases has repeatedly edited government climate reports in ways that play down links between such emissions and global warming, according to internal documents.

In handwritten notes on drafts of several reports issued in 2002 and 2003, the official, Philip A. Cooney, removed or adjusted descriptions of climate research that government scientists and their supervisors, including some senior Bush administration officials, had already approved. In many cases, the changes appeared in the final reports.

The dozens of changes, while sometimes as subtle as the insertion of the phrase "significant and fundamental" before the word "uncertainties," tend to produce an air of doubt about findings that most climate experts say are robust.

Mr. Cooney is chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, the office that helps devise and promote administration policies on environmental issues.

Before going to the White House in 2001, he was the "climate team leader" and a lobbyist at the American Petroleum Institute, the largest trade group representing the interests of the oil industry. A lawyer with a bachelor's degree in economics, he has no scientific training.

The documents were obtained by The New York Times from the Government Accountability Project, a nonprofit legal-assistance group for government whistle-blowers.

The project is representing Rick S. Piltz, who resigned in March as a senior associate in the office that coordinates government climate research. That office, now called the Climate Change Science Program, issued the documents that Mr. Cooney edited.

A White House spokeswoman, Michele St. Martin, said yesterday that Mr. Cooney would not be available to comment. "We don't put Phil Cooney on the record," Ms. St. Martin said. "He's not a cleared spokesman."

In one instance in an October 2002 draft of a regularly published summary of government climate research, "Our Changing Planet," Mr. Cooney amplified the sense of uncertainty by adding the word "extremely" to this sentence: "The attribution of the causes of biological and ecological changes to climate change or variability is extremely difficult."

In a section on the need for research into how warming might change water availability and flooding, he crossed out a paragraph describing the projected reduction of mountain glaciers and snowpack. His note in the margins explained that this was "straying from research strategy into speculative findings/musings."

Other White House officials said the changes made by Mr. Cooney were part of the normal interagency review that takes place on all documents related to global environmental change. Robert Hopkins, a spokesman for the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, noted that one of the reports Mr. Cooney worked on, the administration's 10-year plan for climate research, was endorsed by the National Academy of Sciences. And Myron Ebell, who has long campaigned against limits on greenhouse gases as director of climate policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a libertarian group, said such editing was necessary for "consistency" in meshing programs with policy.

But critics said that while all administrations routinely vetted government reports, scientific content in such reports should be reviewed by scientists. Climate experts and representatives of environmental groups, when shown examples of the revisions, said they illustrated the significant if largely invisible influence of Mr. Cooney and other White House officials with ties to energy industries that have long fought greenhouse-gas restrictions.

In a memorandum sent last week to the top officials dealing with climate change at a dozen agencies, Mr. Piltz said the White House editing and other actions threatened to taint the government's $1.8 billion-a-year effort to clarify the causes and consequences of climate change.

"Each administration has a policy position on climate change," Mr. Piltz wrote. "But I have not seen a situation like the one that has developed under this administration during the past four years, in which politicization by the White House has fed back directly into the science program in such a way as to undermine the credibility and integrity of the program."

A senior Environmental Protection Agency scientist who works on climate questions said the White House environmental council, where Mr. Cooney works, had offered valuable suggestions on reports from time to time. But the scientist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because all agency employees are forbidden to speak with reporters without clearance, said the kinds of changes made by Mr. Cooney had damaged morale. "I have colleagues in other agencies who express the same view, that it has somewhat of a chilling effect and has created a sense of frustration," he said.

Efforts by the Bush administration to highlight uncertainties in science pointing to human-caused warming have put the United States at odds with other nations and with scientific groups at home.

Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain, who met with President Bush at the White House yesterday, has been trying to persuade him to intensify United States efforts to curb greenhouse gases. Mr. Bush has called only for voluntary measures to slow growth in emissions through 2012.

Yesterday, saying their goal was to influence that meeting, the scientific academies of 11 countries, including those of the United States and Britain, released a joint letter saying, "The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action."

The American Petroleum Institute, where Mr. Cooney worked before going to the White House, has long taken a sharply different view. Starting with the negotiations leading to the Kyoto Protocol climate treaty in 1997, it has promoted the idea that lingering uncertainties in climate science justify delaying restrictions on emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping smokestack and tailpipe gases.

On learning of the White House revisions, representatives of some environmental groups said the effort to amplify uncertainties in the science was clearly intended to delay consideration of curbs on the gases, which remain an unavoidable byproduct of burning oil and coal.

"They've got three more years, and the only way to control this issue and do nothing about it is to muddy the science," said Eileen Claussen, the president of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, a private group that has enlisted businesses in programs cutting emissions.

Mr. Cooney's alterations can cause clear shifts in meaning. For example, a sentence in the October 2002 draft of "Our Changing Planet" originally read, "Many scientific observations indicate that the Earth is undergoing a period of relatively rapid change." In a neat, compact hand, Mr. Cooney modified the sentence to read, "Many scientific observations point to the conclusion that the Earth may be undergoing a period of relatively rapid change."

A document showing a similar pattern of changes is the 2003 "Strategic Plan for the United States Climate Change Science Program," a thick report describing the reorganization of government climate research that was requested by Mr. Bush in his first speech on the issue, in June 2001. The document was reviewed by an expert panel assembled in 2003 by the National Academy of Sciences. The scientists largely endorsed the administration's research plan, but they warned that the administration's procedures for vetting reports on climate could result in excessive political interference with science.

Another political appointee who has played an influential role in adjusting language in government reports on climate science is Dr. Harlan L. Watson, the chief climate negotiator for the State Department, who has a doctorate in solid-state physics but has not done climate research.

In an Oct. 4, 2002 memo to James R. Mahoney, the head of the United States Climate Change Science Program and an appointee of Mr. Bush, Mr. Watson "strongly" recommended cutting boxes of text referring to the findings of a National Academy of Sciences panel on climate and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations body that periodically reviews research on human-caused climate change.

The boxes, he wrote, "do not include an appropriate recognition of the underlying uncertainties and the tentative nature of a number of the assertions."

While those changes were made nearly two years ago, recent statements by Dr. Watson indicate that the admnistration's position has not changed.

"We are still not convinced of the need to move forward quite so quickly," he told the BBC in London last month. "There is general agreement that there is a lot known, but also there is a lot to be known."


Hey, why not? It's not like science documents from the government should be divorced from stated policy. After all, what is science but a way to sell stated policy, huh?

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Global warming according to environmentalist wackos is a myth. It's all about the heat island effect and the natural global warming trend already in place for thousands of years.

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Global warming is not a myth. However, the degree to which greenhouse gases, especially CO2, play in it are highly suspect, and there is compelling but downplayed evidence that suggests Apocalypse may not be incorrect. The problem is that we don't have any successful computer models that can successfully model backwards thirty-forty years that state the primacy of greenhouse gases in global warming. There is a new computer simulation that is supposed to be more successful, I want to find multiple sources and see some peer review before I commit myself. I can't find the damn cite, if anybody knows what I'm talking about please post.

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No model of a dynamic system will ever successfully run backwards because dynamic systems never run the same way twice. It's the nature of Chaos.

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Global warming according to environmentalist wackos is a myth. It's all about the heat island effect and the natural global warming trend already in place for thousands of years.


"environmentalist wackos" - is that a new code word for climatoligists, physicists and oceanographers? Or just for anyone who doesn't conform to your views?

If anything is wacko, it's the notion that recent observed temperature changes can be reliably and accurately correlated to a period of thousands of years for which we have only indirect evidence of temperature in far too few locations. Whether it's the same phenomena or not is an entirely independent question from whether the current global measurement and recording regime can be integrated with limited historical and pre-historic indirect measurements to reach any conclusions.

Yeah, the last ice age ended a few thousand years ago, and it's warmer now than then. There's a real conclusive trend for you.

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No model of a dynamic system will ever successfully run backwards because dynamic systems never run the same way twice. It's the nature of Chaos.


Not necessarily. Some dynamic systems have internal constraints that limit the possible range of outcomes, and these can be simulated bidirectionally, albeit with some tweaking and the need to do multiple backward runs to statistically determine the range of input parameters.

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Thank you MtG. Please note that I have supported the concept of Global Warming since prior to my joining Apolyton, something about all those melting glaciers convinced me. However, I have seen some very interesting work done on solar variation, and we have had some recent extreme solar events - since 2000 to be exact. My question is whether we are pursuing the correct theory, i.e. control CO2 to ameliorate Global Warming.

My fear is this is like convicting the wrong man - not only do you put an innocent man in prison, but the criminal is still out there committing his crime. We need some much better work before it is clear whether Kyoto will make .1 degree of significant difference.

Plus you do not need to pursue it bidirectionally. Input records form the 1960's and work your way back foward. If you do this ten times and do not get the current warming even once - you either need to rework you model, or the assumptions you plug into it when you run it. Either scenario is pretty damn important considering what real CO2 controls will do.

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I think Kyoto is a piece of ****, but I also think an emissions offset trading market for CO2 is a good thing - it will certainly stabilize economics for developing commercial fuel efficient combustion systems, not to mention create an additional economic incentive to prevent deforestation, etc.

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Please note that I have supported the concept of Global Warming


I don't... frankly it terrifies me

Needless to say, this official and this idea of anti-science needs to be taken out and shot.

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"environmentalist wackos" - is that a new code word for climatoligists, physicists and oceanographers? Or just for anyone who doesn't conform to your views?



That must be the case with Apoc.

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With these issues i think its just good sense to set out with the belief that we may well be able to artificaly alter our enviroment by our actions, and those alterations may not turn out well.

We only have this one ball of mud to cling to after all. Once its no good for us thats it. Fin.

A billion dollar bank account wont help you either.

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Or we may need to create time capsules that can survive rock-forming conditions, i.e. fossils.

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Hey, why not? It's not like science documents from the government should be divorced from stated policy. After all, what is science but a way to sell stated policy, huh?

You say this like it's new...

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It seems that WH has done some science editing, but they are not the first and certainly not the worst. Organisations such as greenpeace and others that almost see it in religious terms that only human activities are to blame for the current global warming (actually a very unprecise dsescription since the 20'ieth century had long periods of global cooling).

To me it seems that the political and civil arena totally has lost it's sense and only listens to those researchers that supports human influence. I can't remember where I heard/read it, but in a scrutiny of publications about global warming, only 20 % claimed that human activity was to blame - the rest was split between no connection and no provable connection.

Seen in that light, then there are nothing wrong in WH doing what they do, because the other side do the same. Sadly, neither does anything good to the real question which is to figure out what is really happening and what are to be done to prevent damages.

Btw. I think that Kyoto is the biggest waste of money that ever has been planned - and for those that think that Kyotot is the salvation - you are wrong, it is only the start of an even bigger spending of money and ressources without knowing the result.

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