10-06-2005 06:35									#1
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Ayah, we’re a going to do a little something to coax ahselves out of the summer (sheep, hold your tongue) doldrums here. I will be modding the next NES. Possibly I will also be playing in it. If necessary, by myself. I have a new stat/rule system I will probably be using. I don’t much care what the NES is about, so you all have a little while to tell me what you want. The more unusual outlandish and creative the better. If not, I’ll come up with the setting etc. myself. If you all flake out, don’t worry about it, I am perfectly capable of entertaining myself, probably by gleefully crushing and torturing puny, corrupt, emasculated little NPCs named after those of you who don’t play.
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Begin!

	10-06-2005 07:49									#2
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You could begin from where the GDNESIII ended.

	10-06-2005 22:30									#3
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Something historical would be nice. Pre-gunpowder would be the best in my mind, but anything before 1900 would be nice.

	12-06-2005 00:06									#4
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Exploration! Middle Ages? Religion wars!

	13-06-2005 08:56									#5
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One idea I've seen kicked around in other places is a royal family system; you can attempt to use members of your family to influence other places, and you need to keep an eye on heirs to make sure your family doesn't die off. It'd be a lot of extra work for the mod, though, to keep track of that.

	13-06-2005 09:05									#6
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Royal family sounds good indeed

	13-06-2005 19:16									#7
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Fallout NES!

Post Apoc with pre-nuclear technology and tribelike government, horrible resources until you terraform, and gangs of raiders all over. It is your job to change Earth back into a lush green paradise, under your rule of course!

Wastelands would cover all or almost all of the map at first and would have horrible resources unless you terraform or look for minerals. Nuclear Age technology could be found in ruins or researched, future technologies could be discovered.

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	13-06-2005 20:58									#8
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That could be interesting... I prefer historical NESes in general, but a postapocalyptic scenario might be fun. The only thing I'd like to point out is that the tiny factions that would likely form as long-range communications break down would be too small for this NES to work on a world-wide scale; we should pick a small area to work with. Could work the royal family thing into this one too, if we so chose.

I'm still more in favor of something Middle Ages-y. Maybe a little later than the Fall of Rome scenario we had planned on earlier this year, where the Holy Roman Empire and the Turks can get in on the action. Or if we feel like making one single change in history, like the Advanced Hellenistic Era NES, we could just have Mohammed not have any revelation. No revelation, no Islam, no invaders from the east... Might provoke a very different future.

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	13-06-2005 21:08									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 Fallout NES! Post Apoc with pre-nuclear technology and tribelike government, horrible resources until you terraform, and gangs of raiders all over. It is your job to change Earth back into a lush green paradise, under your rule of course! Wastelands would cover all or almost all of the map at first and would have horrible resources unless you terraform or look for minerals. Nuclear Age technology could be found in ruins or researched, future technologies could be discovered.

That sounds a bit too depressing.

	15-06-2005 05:23									#10
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Vote:

1. GDNES3 continuation.

2. Age of exploration--with a twist.

3. Middle ages. NB I'm not up to doing the whole advanced family system thing. You could of course engage in political and dynastic intrigue etc. but it would be abstracted, not specific rule based.

4. Hard core post apocalyptic.

5. Write In. Better suggest it soon if you want others to vote for it though!


Top two get a runoff vote.

	15-06-2005 05:25									#11
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I don't think msot otehrs will take to this, but something somewhat Star Wars based, but without heavy geek scrutiny.

Or something on an alien planet. Everything we have done has been earth based.

I jsut am not really looking ofrward to the typical idea of the future where everybody has nukes, and mechs. Nukes and mechs are kind of stupid to me.

The one kind of out there Idea that I've been playing with for a while is one where all of it tkaes place in a house, and you don't play a group of people or beings, but one person. You have to battle the negative internal parts of yourself while also dealing with those of other people, and the pressures of maintaining enough cash as a collective group in hte hosue to pay for rent, food, and whatever else you desire.

I personally think that the idea of doing something like another historical scenario would be a bit...cliche. We always end up doing that.

Fallout sounds interesting.

I'd just like to try doing something that is not of this world.

Maybe LOTR themed, or jsut a different planet with plants that have different properties, adn all sorts of new things to play around and experiment with.

	15-06-2005 07:17									#12
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Giant planet-eating space worms that borrow through a planet like an inch worm borrows through an apple!

Primordial amoeba?

How about a small group of imortal wizards who are all alone on a planet and use their magic to control the elements, creating armies of golems and such to battle each other for a lack of anythign else to do with their time. I think that one is my favorite.

	15-06-2005 08:17									#13
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Omnipotent asshats

	15-06-2005 08:52									#14
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Oooh that amoeba idea has me thinking (which can be dangerous). What if we take the concept of Will Wright's spore, and do it as an NES?

You start out as a singlecelled organism, adn eventually work your way up to somehting cooler (and bigger) like bugs, adn then from bugs to bigger mammals, and the to ape like animals, and even further then to humanoid types.

I'd jsut liek to use some form of magic, or the force, or psychic powers, or chi or something in this just to mix things up a little bit.

Imagine the power of pyrokinetic bugs!!!!

	15-06-2005 11:11									#15
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sigh.

How about a Flash Gordon-esque world*, where you can play either evil madmen attempting to take over the world with robots of nearly total doom or peaceful but tough democracies of virtue simply defending themselves from the evils of this universe. But you're not actually trying to destroy each other, because without conflict the show would get boring, ratings would fall and the show would get canceled. In other words whoever has the most stylish empire the most entertaining schemes/heroics and the most interesting plot "wins".

*Disclaimer: I know nothing about Flash Gordon or his contemporaries beyond pop culture cliches and references passed down.

	15-06-2005 12:02									#16
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Bipolarbear and I had been kicking around an idea where an NES takes place over a star system. One star, nine or ten planets, assorted asteroids and comets. That might be fun if we account for the planets having different periods, because that would mean borders would constantly change; you might be only a short distance from an enemy one turn, then far away the next. Screwy borders like that could be a lot of fun. I don't, however, like some of the things I've read about in future NESes; nukes and other superweapons especially. Mechs would only get on my nerves if people take them to excess; they should play only a supporting role, not the majority.

	15-06-2005 15:21									#17
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Star sytem!!!

anything involving magic powers

	15-06-2005 16:29									#18
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quote: Originally posted by appleciders Bipolarbear and I had been kicking around an idea where an NES takes place over a star system. One star, nine or ten planets, assorted asteroids and comets. That might be fun if we account for the planets having different periods, because that would mean borders would constantly change; you might be only a short distance from an enemy one turn, then far away the next. Screwy borders like that could be a lot of fun. I don't, however, like some of the things I've read about in future NESes; nukes and other superweapons especially. Mechs would only get on my nerves if people take them to excess; they should play only a supporting role, not the majority.

"low tech" Sci-fI set within a solar-system would be fun, too.


... Or how about steampunk? Perhaps a sort of jules-verne kind of setting.

	15-06-2005 22:12									#19
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I agree; no gravity drives, no really weird technologies, and definately no nukes. Here's a thought; as a bit of background, write in that one planent controlled the whole system, but that planet managed to blow itself up with nuclear weapons, which have therefore been banned. We get a good reason not to use nukes, a power vacuum, and an asteroid belt all in one.

	16-06-2005 09:45									#20
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You have 60 hours to make proposals and cast your votes. I start setting up this weekend.

	16-06-2005 15:48									#21
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vote:
- Age of Discovery (Maybe not real world to prevent unfair knowledge)
- Solar System with low tech
- new planet colonization

vote against:
- magic
- lord of the rings
- flash gordon
- superman and the ninja turtles

	16-06-2005 21:24									#22
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Aye:
- Age of Discovery (Maybe real world to reward people who do research)
- Solar System, low tech
- Postapocalyptic
- Working in weak psychic powers in a supporting role only. It shouldn't take over the game.

Nay:
- LOTR
- Superheroes
- Amoebas

	16-06-2005 21:51									#23
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For:
- Low tech Sci-fi
- Amoebas
- Omnipotent Asshats
- Jules Verne

Against:
- Anything historical

	16-06-2005 22:59									#24
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For:
post-apoc
Amoebas
low-tech solar system
Against:
Historical

	17-06-2005 05:19									#25
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I'm seeing a pattern here in favor of low-tech solar system.

	18-06-2005 23:12									#26
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Yep. I'll get started. Conceptualization, mechanics, and setup will take a couple days at least, expect to see this ready in about a week (sooner with some luck). Feel free to continue making suggestings on specifics or your visualization of the overall "feel" in the meantime.

	19-06-2005 07:31									#27
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Having an asteroid belt would be fun; something to mine, a place for bandits to hide out, that sort of thing.

Having one planet be a penal colony might be fun; lower tech, but very resourceful and hard-working populace, if a little disorderly.

	19-06-2005 16:40									#28
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I think there should be an emphasis on the low-tech part. Weapons should be mostly munitions based, lasers should be largely inefective or so big and power consuming as to be impractical. No Forcefields. Water should be a limited comodity on many planets, and interplanetary bulk freight should be expensive and labourous.

You should also try to play on each planet's characteristics. A planet close to the sun, for instance, could potentialy collect incredible amount of solar energy, while a planet on the rim would have difficulty collecting any energy at all. Heavy gravity planets should be more difficult and expensive to launch from. Most colonies should be inside bio-domes or underground facilities, as it's highly unlikely that there would be more than one habitable planet in a solar system.

	19-06-2005 21:41									#29
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None of the planets needs to be absolutely hostile to life, though, and there might be more than one that's habitable; statistics state firmly that coincidences do happen. I also think each planet should have a distinctly different culture, just for fun.

I don't know how in-depth you're going in designing these planets, but these sites may be useful.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire...Calculator.html

http://www.bumply.com/astro.html

	20-06-2005 00:28									#30
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quote: Originally posted by appleciders None of the planets needs to be absolutely hostile to life, though

But some should be.

Another thing to consider as far as the planets go is rare minerals and metals. Some may be more abundant than others, while others may have very little of a certain resource.