10-06-2005 18:06									#1
	Creative's new "Zen Vision" player Tired of ads?

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* Capacity Size: 30GB HDD, 1.8-inch
* Built-in Compact Flash slot
* Audio Formats Supported: MP3, WMA, and WAV
* FM Radio: Yes, Internal
* Enhanced Sound: 8 Preset EQ
* Voice Recording: Yes, Direct Encoding: No, FM Radio Recording: No
* Video formats Supported: MPEG4, WMV, Dvix, XviD
* Picture support (JPEG & TIFF)
* Display: 640x480 pixels 64,000 Colour 3.7-inch TFT-LCD Display
* Interface Type: Buttons, multi-directional control
* Connectivity: USB 2.0 (USB 1.1 Backwards Compatible)
* Internal Microphone: Yes
* Battery: Internal Lithium-Ion Rechargeable
* Battery Replacement: User Removable,. Rechargeable: power point or USB
* Unit Dimensions: 124.2 x 74.4mm x 20.1mm
* Unit Weight: 232 Grams (with battery)

w00t.

	10-06-2005 18:22									#2
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Those images don't show, unless you head to the site...


Cool beans, portable adult entertainment.

	10-06-2005 18:34									#3
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	10-06-2005 18:53									#5
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Should I be excited about this?

	10-06-2005 21:03									#6
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Yesd, it means that Apple will soon come out with a better one that will ignite the market and reduce this to irrelevance.

	10-06-2005 21:21									#7
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I will stick with my humble MP3 player...

	10-06-2005 21:53									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Yesd, it means that Apple will soon come out with a better one that will ignite the market and reduce this to irrelevance.

Price will be reduced...

	10-06-2005 21:58									#9
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I don't think there is such a large demand for this.

	10-06-2005 22:31									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Yesd, it means that Apple will soon come out with a better one that will ignite the market and reduce this to irrelevance.

It means that Apple will copy Creative again and be proclaimed as innovative.

	10-06-2005 22:42									#11
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I have no use for these multimedia players... However, there's also a bigger version of the Zen Micro, called the Zen. It looks just like the Micro, but with a 20 GB hd. Same interface, though...

http://www.creative.com/products/pr...4&product=11519

	10-06-2005 22:50									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Asher * Unit Dimensions: 124.2 x 74.4mm x 20.1mm * Unit Weight: 232 Grams (with battery)

Bulky

iPod: 158 grams, 104 x 61 x 157 cm

	10-06-2005 22:53									#13
	Tired of ads?

Oh nice, I didn't know that was out too.

	10-06-2005 22:53									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Bulky iPod: 158 grams, 104 x 61 x 157 cm

I'm sorry, is the iPod a video player?

Last I heard the regular iPod is a monochrome music player with spotty audio and bad battery life.

	10-06-2005 22:57									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Bulky iPod: 158 grams, 104 x 61 x 157 cm

Zen Nano: 3.35cm x 6.55cm x 1.3cm, 22grams

	11-06-2005 00:44									#16
	Re: Re: Creative's new "Zen Vision" player Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Bulky iPod: 158 grams, 104 x 61 x 157 cm

Wow 104 cm x 61 cm x 157 cm

	11-06-2005 02:32									#17
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	11-06-2005 02:39									#18
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I'm a little concerned about the sturdiness of a HD-equipped player - it would strike me that a solid-state approach would be superior and more reliable. So, is this true?

	11-06-2005 03:06									#19
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There are HD players with shock protection. The iAudio M3 has twelve minutes of shock protection.

	11-06-2005 03:09									#20
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I have no use for these multimedia players... However, there's also a bigger version of the Zen Micro, called the Zen. It looks just like the Micro, but with a 20 GB hd. Same interface, though... http://www.creative.com/products/pr...4&product=11519

My Zen has a 40 BG capacity. If I knew this one was coming out then I might have waited the extra few weeks before buying depending upon the price. Still, I'm happy with my Zen and I got tons of play time out of it on my recent road trip through Costa Rica. I also use it all the time here in the states.

I don't think I would have used the FM radio feature so its no big lose to me but it is one step closer to the ultimate convergence device I've been waiting for.

	11-06-2005 03:29									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I'm a little concerned about the sturdiness of a HD-equipped player - it would strike me that a solid-state approach would be superior and more reliable. So, is this true?

They are more reliable in that there is zero danger of damaging a hard drive and with fewer moving parts there are simply few things to break and as an added benifit they consume less electricity since there are no electric motors to power. Even HDD players with shock protection still recommend you don't jog with them due to potential damage to the hard drive. Solid state is the future but right now capacity isn't great (around 5GB). Once we get solid state up to around 20GB you will see them take over the market.

	11-06-2005 03:30									#22
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Yeah, precisely. Well I suppose jogging isn't going to be much of a concern for me

	11-06-2005 13:08									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa Wow 104 cm x 61 cm x 157 cm

gotta love typos.

Should'd been mm, of course.

	11-06-2005 22:46									#24
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how do you guys think the hard drive based Iriver's compare to these?

	11-06-2005 23:12									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Tis I how do you guys think the hard drive based Iriver's compare to these?

They generally get very good reviews. Otoh, they're not the cheapest MP3 players on the bloc