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Discouraging him accomplishes nothing. Encouraging him, maybe he succeeds maybe he fails. But any chance is always better than none.


I'm trying to stop him from being so delusional. Encouraging people like that just makes them delusional.

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Then how will you have time to have ten kids? I suppose you plan of having a slave wife?

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Then how will you have time to have ten kids? I suppose you plan of having a slave wife?



No. My wife and I will figure it out. Tis but a mere obstacle. We will navigate it when we get there.

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I'm trying to stop him from being so delusional. Encouraging people like that just makes them delusional.


Every dream is delusional.

My folks were called delusional to believe that a hearing impaired kid would go onto university.

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Then how will you have time to have ten kids? I suppose you plan of having a slave wife?


Having lots of sex with a young wife with no birth control.

Not that hard.

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Not that hard.


On the contrary, very hard.

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Spaced, why do you want to have a huge family if you spend all your time not seeing them? By having a huge family while not spending time at home, you'd be effectively turning your wife into a slave of family matters.

Besides, you're saying there'd be "more of you", but if you aren't going to walk the walk (that is, spending time and care to educate and develop your children), your children will end up being unraised losers that share your genetic code.

A child is the best shot you have to make a lasting impact on this world. Don't waste this chance by making an half-assedwork (actually, a nonexistent work) of raising your children.

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This sun must really uplift us northern folks.

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Space. Im not SpacedCowboy.

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Every dream is delusional.

No it isn't. It's only delusional if you ignore reality.
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My folks were called delusional to believe that a hearing impaired kid would go onto university.

Not necessarily, but I wouldn't doubt it.

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Spaced, why do you want to have a huge family if you spend all your time not seeing them? By having a huge family while not spending time at home, you'd be effectively turning your wife into a slave of family matters.

Besides, you're saying there'd be "more of you", but if you aren't going to walk the walk (that is, spending time and care to educate and develop your children), your children will end up being unraised losers that share your genetic code.


I'll have time to see them. The kind of job I'll have as a doctor is a 9-5 5days a week type job.
I would do everything I could to spend every minute with my kids, and wife.

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I was a dishwasher many years ago, and I had other equally menial jobs. Everyone has to start somewhere.

(but I never made it to doctor )

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No. My wife and I will figure it out. Tis but a mere obstacle. We will navigate it when we get there.

It isn't a mere obstacle. It is a choice in life. You can't have everything in life, simply because time is so damn short. Just like you can't hope to learn everything there is to learn during your lifetime, you can't set yourself to obtain all the material goals there is to obtain in your lifetime.

In partiuclar, children need time. Much of time. No matter how rich or how poor you are, if you don't spend time with your children, they're very likely to grow up having serious issues.

If you intend to have many children, you should look for jobs where you can make good money while working for not so much time.

Actually, you can get paid big bucks with little time spent at work if you produce something of value. Extremely long hours are only required for dishwashers, workaholics, and executives. Anybody else can make comfortable money while still having some time to devote to the family.

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I'll have time to see them. The kind of job I'll have as a doctor is a 9-5 5days a week type job.
I would do everything I could to spend every minute with my kids, and wife.

Good to know. You seemed conflicted about it, as I recall from a previous thread that you basically wanted to spend every awake minute working

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Good to know. You seemed conflicted about it, as I recall from a previous thread that you basically wanted to spend every awake minute working


Ah my old "Im pissed off about everything in the world so this is what Im going to do to prove my penis is larger than yours" rant. I was just ranting then.

edit: Spiffor check you PMs, and reply.

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Damn you, kuciwalker!


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(but I never made it to doctor )


That's probably because you weren't a high school drop out.

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Your avatar makes me want waffles. I love waffles, crispy outside, light and fluffy inside, dripping with butter and maple syrup.

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You just noticed it?

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I noticed it before, but it just hit me all of a sudden.

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Almost as good as waffles are pancakes made from waffle batter.

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You bastard.

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Waffles sans syrup

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On the population issue, if the question is how a game should handle it, the death rate is more important for the most part than the birth rate. Population should be growing constantly, but before sanitation and industriazation of agriculture, frequent crop failures and disease keep growth steady and slow. Then the deathrate drops, and population explodes. Then, as affluence grows and women become more educated, they chose to have less kids, and the fertility rate drops, eventually slowing non-immigration driven growth.

As for Ben's idea. The WOMAN decides on the number of kids, unless you are seeking an indentured wife.

Lets say you begin at 18 to impregnate the wife. It takes 9 months for the first kid to come, and if she breastfeeds, her own body makes it much more difficult to get pregnant again because it would make little biological sensefor a being that spends 9 months pregnant and must devote years to its offspring to keep having them (if you have two young babies at the same time, you sort of run out of hands...

Add to this that the more kids you have, the more likely a problem is- having a miscarriage, including one that may irreprably damage your ability to have more kids.

One of my uncles (religious conservative ala Ben) tried to have 7 kids. He got five, then the wife had two miscarriages, and there it ended.

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Now any guesses to what would happen when we can grow babies to full size in a machine?

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As for Ben's idea. The WOMAN decides on the number of kids, unless you are seeking an indentured wife.

Lets say you begin at 18 to impregnate the wife. It takes 9 months for the first kid to come, and if she breastfeeds, her own body makes it much more difficult to get pregnant again because it would make little biological sensefor a being that spends 9 months pregnant and must devote years to its offspring to keep having them (if you have two young babies at the same time, you sort of run out of hands...

Add to this that the more kids you have, the more likely a problem is- having a miscarriage, including one that may irreprably damage your ability to have more kids.

One of my uncles (religious conservative ala Ben) tried to have 7 kids. He got five, then the wife had two miscarriages, and there it ended.


Where did I say that the woman had no say? If the wife is willing to have that many kids, then it may work. It sure isn't going to work without a willing wife.

Secondly, trying for 7 kids and having 5 sure beats the heck out of trying for two and getting two.

 
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