10-06-2005 23:40									#1
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Everytime I turn on the TV, it seems like his smug face is on the news. I've got to hand it to him. He has a lot of presence and the best ability to get his message out I've seen. I think he's better than Clinton and Reagan in that respect. He also seems to get pretty much what he wants when he wants it. I guess that's the power of the darkside.

	10-06-2005 23:42									#2
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His strategy is to stay on the local news rather than the national news. He does this by traveling around the country and giving these short speeches. Many more people watch the local news and even if you hate the guy, you will notice when POTUS shows up in your home town in his 747.

He's got a good, disciplined political operation that knows what it's doing.

	11-06-2005 04:51									#3
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Clinton was far better -- he never stumbled with words the way dumb ol' Bush does.

	11-06-2005 05:00									#4
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Not to mention Clinton would actually give interviews where the questions weren't all submited in advance. Bush doesn't do have regular press confrences because he comes off looking like an ass as he trips over his own words.

His handlers are smart though; they know the boss is a fuc-tard so they keep him away from reporters and instead take him to one scripted speech to another where Bush just mumbles the same silly lines to the guillible. Hell, even those audiences are fake and the people who occationally get to ask Bush questions all work for the white house.

	11-06-2005 05:09									#5
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quote: fuc-tard

That about sums him up.

	11-06-2005 05:11									#6
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quote: His handlers are smart though; they know the boss is a fuc-tard so they keep him away from reporters and instead take him to one scripted speech to another where Bush just mumbles the same silly lines to the guillible. Hell, even those audiences are fake and the people who occationally get to ask Bush questions all work for the white house

	11-06-2005 08:53									#7
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quote: Originally posted by DanS His strategy is to stay on the local news rather than the national news. He does this by traveling around the country and giving these short speeches. Many more people watch the local news and even if you hate the guy, you will notice when POTUS shows up in your home town in his 747. He's got a good, disciplined political operation that knows what it's doing.

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	11-06-2005 09:11									#8
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Well, given his poll numbewrs, maybe trying to stay off TV might be a strategy to try right now.

	11-06-2005 09:17									#9
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Then he just sinks faster. He knows he has to keep the misinformation machine running so Joe 6-pack and his retarded bottle blond wife can climb into their pick up truck each day knowing they can't trust them there liberal tv stations since they're all working for them there furrin'ers.

	11-06-2005 10:27									#10
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Clinton was far better -- he never stumbled with words the way dumb ol' Bush does.

Exactly. Its easy to imagine that a smooth talker is lying to you, but if someone stumbles over his words and looks really really earnest he must be telling the truth!

	11-06-2005 10:55									#11
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This is the biggest Duh thread of the year. A politician engaging in politics. Next thing you will tell me is that drug dealers sell drugs or divers get wet.

	12-06-2005 15:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber This is the biggest Duh thread of the year. A politician engaging in politics. Next thing you will tell me is that drug dealers sell drugs or divers get wet.

It kills me when people who are not interested in a topic make a comment. If it's "Duh" to you why not just move along and let people with something to contribute to the discussion make their posts. Duh. Or is some form of attention seeking on your part?

	12-06-2005 16:21									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Pax Everytime I turn on the TV, it seems like his smug face is on the news. I've got to hand it to him. He has a lot of presence and the best ability to get his message out I've seen. I think he's better than Clinton and Reagan in that respect. He also seems to get pretty much what he wants when he wants it. I guess that's the power of the darkside.

Sounds like a question for one of his rigged town halls meeting:

Mr. President, how is it that you have so much presence and how do you manage to do such a great job at getting your message out? Do you think historians will say that you're as good as Reagan, or better?

	12-06-2005 20:14									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh Exactly. Its easy to imagine that a smooth talker is lying to you, but if someone stumbles over his words and looks really really earnest he must be telling the truth!

Um, that wasn't my point. Clinton had to lie at times too, I'm sure because he's a politician, but Bush takes it to another, lower level.

	12-06-2005 23:30									#15
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Power of the Dark Side?

Well, I guess you're right, George Lucas did pattern some of his Darth Vader/Emperor characters on Bush, assuming you agree with the left's or Buchanan's distortions of Bush's foreign policy.

	12-06-2005 23:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Pax It kills me when people who are not interested in a topic make a comment. If it's "Duh" to you why not just move along and let people with something to contribute to the discussion make their posts. Duh. Or is some form of attention seeking on your part?

It's not attention seeking. Why is it that you think that Bush politicickin is anything new? Its what they all do. It kills me when someone seeking attention makes a thread like this. It's a simple bash Bush thread and that's all it ever was going to be.

	12-06-2005 23:54									#17
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Um, that wasn't my point. Clinton had to lie at times too, I'm sure because he's a politician, but Bush takes it to another, lower level.

So your ok with being lied to as long as its not done by Bush?

	13-06-2005 00:04									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Pax Everytime I turn on the TV, it seems like his smug face is on the news. I've got to hand it to him. He has a lot of presence and the best ability to get his message out I've seen. I think he's better than Clinton and Reagan in that respect. He also seems to get pretty much what he wants when he wants it. I guess that's the power of the darkside.

OH and another reason you see his smug face on TV a lot is that he is the President of The United States and the media has an entire corp of reporters following him. They have to have something to fill up their 24 hours of news. So if you don't want to see him turn off the damn TV more or watch another station. That's what I did. The reason you notice it is that you hate him. If you liked the man in office then his politickin would bother you so much. Hell, you wouldn't even consider it politickin.

	13-06-2005 00:14									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Power of the Dark Side? Well, I guess you're right, George Lucas did pattern some of his Darth Vader/Emperor characters on Bush, assuming you agree with the left's or Buchanan's distortions of Bush's foreign policy.

You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

	13-06-2005 00:21									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

The PT wasn't written in the 70's. Lucus finished the last script about two years ago.

	13-06-2005 00:22									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin You do realize that the story was written in the 1970's long before there was a Bush to pattern, right?

yeah but sw3 has that "with me or against me" line, doesnt it?

	13-06-2005 02:30									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber The PT wasn't written in the 70's. Lucus finished the last script about two years ago.

Yes it was. All of the stories were written in the 70's. That's different from the final script.

	13-06-2005 03:38									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Yes it was. All of the stories were written in the 70's. That's different from the final script.

Lucus used what he had for the first three. The PT is backstory. Sure he used some ideas from the early days but the story of the PT was not written in the 70s

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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber So your ok with being lied to as long as its not done by Bush?

That wasn't my point either.


Stop being such a jackass.

	13-06-2005 23:41									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber It's not attention seeking. Why is it that you think that Bush politicickin is anything new? Its what they all do. It kills me when someone seeking attention makes a thread like this. It's a simple bash Bush thread and that's all it ever was going to be.

Actually, I only want to bring attention to the issue. With the exception of the power of the dark side JOKE, I did not say anything to indicate that I hate him. In fact, I'm complementing him on his ability to get what he wants.

	14-06-2005 00:01									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh Exactly. Its easy to imagine that a smooth talker is lying to you, but if someone stumbles over his words and looks really really earnest he must be telling the truth!

I thought that his inability to be a smooth talker and sometimes dumb looking was taken as a proof that he didn't have a brain and was a blatant liar. What have I missed ?

	14-06-2005 00:31									#27
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I've always maintained that Bush was extremely smart. There's not one post that I've made that refers to him as dumb.

	14-06-2005 00:37									#28
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quote: Originally posted by DanS His strategy is to stay on the local news rather than the national news. He does this by traveling around the country and giving these short speeches. Many more people watch the local news and even if you hate the guy, you will notice when POTUS shows up in your home town in his 747. He's got a good, disciplined political operation that knows what it's doing.

Hiding from the real issues and ducking the mismanagement of everything from the economy to North Korea to trade with China to the war in Iraq, while slowly moseying away from any acknowledgment of having blown the majority of his reelection political capital on sinking the prospects for privatization of social security?

	14-06-2005 10:51									#29
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I think the idea of a "permanent campaign" has been increasing in relevance for a long time... Bush or no Bush. The amount of travel the President does within the country has been more or less on the increase for many decades... aided by advances in communications technology no doubt.

I don't fault Bush for cynically using the media, and his colloquial/unsophisticated idiom, to his advantage. That's the game of the politician, and its to the fault of the people who are led on by it. A democratic politician is really only going to be as dumb, or intelligent, as the people want him/her to be.

This is 21st Century democracy, American style. If you don't like it, don't vote for it.

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I think the most important thing the bushites are doing is message discipline. Anyone who actually knows anything tells only the canned party line, and they are constantly out there regurgitating it. They are ALWAYS 'on message' in a disciplined way.