11-06-2005 04:32									#1
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do you know anything about wine?
whats your favorite or do you have one?
if you don't drink wine what do you drink?


im about to open an Australian pinot noir.
ive been sort of tasting my way through the countries.

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	11-06-2005 04:59									#2
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My favorite wines are:
all of them

Try and find out if there is a wine-tasting course near you. That's the best way to really discover the wonderful world that is wine.

My favorite reds are:
zinfindel
shiraz / syrrah (same thing)
pinot noir
trabbiano

favorite whites are:
chardonnay
sauvagnon blanc
pinot grigio (pinot gris)
reisling
gevurtziminer (i spelled that wrong)

My least favorite is:
merlot (and has been for over a decade, you johny-Sideways-watchin' come latelys!)

I also recommend joining a wine club, such as:
http://www.atasteofcalifornia.com/
or
https://www.internationalwine.com/index.aspx

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	11-06-2005 05:03									#3
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* ive been sort of tasting my way through the countries.

That are one of the more interesting ways to learn a country to know at a distance - often filled with joy and pleasance.

Some of my favourites are

Californian Zinfandel wines
Chateau Neuf du pape wines
Barolo from Italy
Garrafeiras from Protugal (sadly they vere better in the 80'es )

and then there are all the others wich just is nice to drink

	11-06-2005 05:10									#4
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* gevurtziminer (i spelled that wrong)

You can say that - I guess that you mean

gewürztraminer

wich is good, just as the Chardonnay blanc

	11-06-2005 05:15									#5
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I've only puked once from drinking and it from drinking too much wine.

And what a puke it was...

Since then the thought of wine turns my stomach... pity too since I really enjoyed drinking it.

	11-06-2005 05:21									#6
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn I've only puked once from drinking and it from drinking too much wine. And what a puke it was... Since then the thought of wine turns my stomach... pity too since I really enjoyed drinking it.

You could start with just half a bottle of wine and keep the rest for next day. Most ordinary wines can easily survive for 24 hours, so no risk of waste.

	11-06-2005 11:29									#7
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so much wine and so little time... lol
well the Australian pinot noir was really good.

sometimes you guys really surprise me.

im a member of the local fine arts center
and they have wine tastings quite often.
though ive not been to one yet.
a wine club that sounds interesting

	11-06-2005 11:36									#8
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I'm pretty particular. I'll take wine with a cork over wine with a screw top, and both of those over wine in a box any day.

	11-06-2005 12:20									#9
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There are over 4000 wineries in Bordeaux. The frogs know how to do things right.

	11-06-2005 14:40									#10
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Bordeaux is overrated overpriced export crap. We keep the good ones to ourselves

I don't classify wines with its kind of grape (Chardonnay, Sauvignon, Shiraz etc.), so I couldn't give you an interesting answer.

Save for Riesling and Gewürtzraminer, which are almost always good enought that they please the guests

	11-06-2005 14:45									#11
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quote: Originally posted by boann do you know anything about wine? whats your favorite or do you have one? if you don't drink wine what do you drink?

no.

no.

Milk, Diet Coke, water.

	11-06-2005 14:49									#12
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I like wine...

don't know much

my favorites are generally Merlot

but I like most everything (there have been some Whites I ddint' like, don't remember what they were (But they were cheap))

JM

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These are the best wines I ever tasted.

Cigalus 1997
Virtuoso Primitivo 2000
Chateau Liot 1999
Souvrana 1995

My favourite red wines are Primitivo, Tempranillo, Zinfandel and Medoc. Chegitz is wrong about Merlot- there are great ones out there, but they aren't from the US. Chile makes fantastic ones.

For whites, I drink mainly Gewurztraminer. However if I'm going to indulge myself, I go for a Sauternes- pricey but fantastic.

	11-06-2005 19:52									#14
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My favourite wine is white with a drop of lemonade

	11-06-2005 19:56									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue My favourite wine is white with a drop of lemonade

Eeeeuuwww - I guess that you also put cola in your Scotch single malt whiskey

	11-06-2005 19:59									#16
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Sometimes it's a power white wine and have Smirnoff Ice with it

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I still have a couple of bottles of 1999 Casa Ema Chianti . It's probably the best wine I've ever tasted, although some of the Chilian Cabernet Sauvignon's are nice. Red .

	11-06-2005 20:02									#19
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I bet you couldn't tell the difference between that and the £2.99 bottle of red I've got waiting for me in Leeds.

	11-06-2005 20:05									#20
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Don't get me started. In my latest move, my bottle of 1949 Garrafeira got ruined. Due to a lack of funds, I have seen my collection of 10 cases or so dwindle down to a mere 3+ cases. Bordeaux from the 70s, California Cabs from the 80s, Burgundies from 69, late 80s, and 90....all drunk without replacement.

	11-06-2005 20:08									#21
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Some of the cheap stuff is ok, especially some of Tesco's stuff... but mostly it tends to be wine you'd use in cooking... I wouldn't use my nice stuff in a Coq au Vin for instance. It doesn't take much drinking to be able to tell a marked difference between the wheat and the chaff.

	11-06-2005 21:06									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Chegitz is wrong about Merlot- there are great ones out there, but they aren't from the US. Chile makes fantastic ones.

How can I be wrong about what I don't like? I know there are some good ones out there, but it's jst not worth the risk. Too many merlots are weak or slightly vinegary. Americans, at least, don't know how to make good merlot yet.

Lancer, a lot of quality vintners are switching to screw tops because there is a shortage of quality cork. Spoilage rates have increased dramatically in the last decade because of the use of inferior cork. In addition, screw tops also allow leftover wine to be stored longer.

In Oz, they have no problem putting good wine into boxes. In fact, this is an even better solution than screwtops, since the use of gravity and mylar means that no oxygen gets into the wine container. In the U.S., though, box wine has a bad rep, so vintners are afaird to switch. I think they should.

	11-06-2005 22:04									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Bordeaux is overrated overpriced export crap. We keep the good ones to ourselves I don't classify wines with its kind of grape (Chardonnay, Sauvignon, Shiraz etc.), so I couldn't give you an interesting answer. Save for Riesling and Gewürtzraminer, which are almost always good enought that they please the guests

There are quite a few very nice, not-so-overpriced Bordeaux amongst the pricy trendy crap. We figure that as a third world country, you just need the foreign currency earnings so that people can one day afford indoor plumbing and stop using the Seine for that purpose.

I just figured there's enough good stuff to choose from in Bordeaux that you'd be drunk for life before you even found your way to the Rhone or Loire, let alone as far as Burgundy or Alsace-Lorraine.

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i have not really tasted a box wine that i thought was any good yet... but i do like the concept.
fresh glass of wine every day without having to finish the bottle for fear it will not be as good ..
so i would buy one if i found one that tasted good to me.
but who wants to buy a big box just to find you don't like it .. and then be forced to drink it... ick..

	11-06-2005 22:40									#25
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You're absolutely right, boann. To get good box wine, you have to go to Oz.

MtG, Spiffy is correct, the vast majority of Bordeux is crap. What he leaves unsaid is that the vast majority of French wine is crap. Most French wine is table wine, and not meant for the wine enthusiast. We don't buy French table wine.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You're absolutely right, boann. To get good box wine, you have to go to Oz. MtG, Spiffy is correct, the vast majority of Bordeux is crap. What he leaves unsaid is that the vast majority of French wine is crap. Most French wine is table wine, and not meant for the wine enthusiast. We don't buy French table wine.

well what is this Oz.. is that a place or a store or
is it a joke ment to say its over the rainbow and impossible... lol..
i guess you're going to have to educate me on it

	12-06-2005 01:23									#28
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Oz = Australia

Consider getting a subscription to Wine Spectator, btw.

	12-06-2005 01:30									#29
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@ boann, talk about ditzy

I hear Lidl's 3 bottles for £6 is quite good

	12-06-2005 02:19									#30
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Most French wine is table wine, and not meant for the wine enthusiast. We don't buy French table wine.

I wasn't thinking of table wines (actually, I know a few great table wines, but they're "table wines" in official name only, because of the legislation).

Wine prices have skyrocketed in the 1990's because of the explosion of the international market. Bordeaux wines have seen their price explode as well, and the Bordeaux region became full of people looking for a fat profit. The whole Bordelais became planted for wine, even terrains that sucked for that effect.

Since Bordeaux wines are mostly made for a rather unsophisticated customer base (foreigners and French new middle-classes), they benefited very much form their prestigious label. Moreover, the Bordeaux wines adapted the taste of their customers to what they produced: Bordeaux wines taste like wood because of the wooden barrels. This taste has become trendy, and now the Bordeaux wineries (like the Australian ones BTW) artificially add wood flavour to their wine.

Most of the French wine (appellation wine, at least) is of average quality, but overrated. The winers tend to know their job, but to mass-produce and to lack imagination. Fortunately, our culture of wine as a handicraft makes it possible that some winers do really love their art, and make great wines without even overcharging them