12-06-2005 18:31									#1
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what about a game with 4 factions when each faction can have victory only in one way:

Diplomatic: PK's
Economic: Morganites
Tracnedence: UNI (maybe Gaians?)
Military: Spartans (maybe Hive?)

Dont know how fair it will be (economic victory seems almost inposible...), but it seems interesting.

Any one in?

	12-06-2005 18:57									#2
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If the CMN gave all opposing factions -2 Probe and Morgan 2% interest rate then economic victory would be possible.

Presuming that Co-operative victory is off, Peacekeepers might need triple votes and Spartans begin with AMA, Impunity Power and Command Nexus.

	12-06-2005 19:05									#3
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I'm not sure that would be very fair for PK...but cooperative victory should be off.

	12-06-2005 19:17									#4
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If co-op is off then the only one that isn't going to require a military campaign is transcend. Interesting idea though

	12-06-2005 19:19									#5
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well maybe is not fair to put it off, but waht would eb the point esle way? do you think it wouldnt be fair play?

	13-06-2005 13:11									#6
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Economic victory:
possible without military conquest (still need LOTS of defenses) but excruciangly hard.

Diplomatic victory:
possible without military conquest only if there's a homerule that if PKs get 75% votes game is over in the same moment.
Otherwise there will just be all-against-PK vendetta.
PKs can get triple votes by EG, but still need population equal the sum of all other faction pop to succeed.

Transcend:
possible without military conquest, but you're hardly gonna survive to the point, especially if there's Sparta aimed at conquest around.

	13-06-2005 13:22									#7
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sounds logical rule.
may be also sortening the time of countdown for economic vistory.

	13-06-2005 13:23									#8
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quote: may be also sortening the time of countdown for economic vistory.

To zero.
As if you get so much ECs, it's an acievement itself.

	13-06-2005 13:27									#9
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ok, so lets say something like this:

Economic victory- the moment the count down begins.
Diplomaatic victory - the moment 75% of votes are reached.

factions would be -
PK - diplomatic victory
Spartans - military victory
Uni - Tradendence
Morganites - economic vitory

who's in (but me )

	13-06-2005 16:51									#10
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I'd say Gaians for Transcendance would make a more balanced game.

(some faction modifications wouldn't hurt either. I still think economic is too hard. No CPU opponents and opposing factions -2 probe would make economic vicotry cheaper, because economic victory = mind controlling all un-allied bases)

	13-06-2005 17:18									#11
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agreed on no AIs and -2 porbe.

do you think it will be too easy for Uni getting to tracnedence in comparison to the other players victory?

	13-06-2005 17:22									#12
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quote: do you think it will be too easy for Uni getting to tracnedence in comparison to the other players victory?

IMO it will be more easy for Sparta to conquer everything than for Uni to go Transcend..

	13-06-2005 17:29									#13
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agree, but it is more suitable for spartans to conquer (and then maybe for Gaians to want tracendence).
but may be hive or belivers could go for conquer...

	15-06-2005 21:43									#14
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no volunteers, probably too hard...

	16-06-2005 19:30									#15
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ROTFL
That's what I expected from losers from Apolyton. Just lot of talking and real action is nowhere (though this is a really good idea).

However if you will find some more players you can count me in (under few special conditions). I will play morganites/pirates for econ victory or peacekeepers for diplomatic or gaians for any victory condition.

Blockhead

	17-06-2005 20:27									#16
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I guess we won't be playing with you with that atitude.