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Lancer is offline Lancer
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Assuming, of course.

I don't think anything we're doing is particularly interesting to creatures that can cross the galaxy. Politics, wars, blah, all boring.

This earth...maybe. The planet might be interesting. Who knows how common nice planets like this are? So, they might want it. However it's crawling with nasty bugs, germs, viruses, all likely to be particular to this planet.

Life. The defenses against germs and viruses might be interesting for the aliens. If the aliens have been traveling the galaxy for a billion years, might they also have been evolving themselves geneticly for eternal life. If you live forever things that can bring that life to an end would be interesting. Also, natural adaptions that coiuld improve ones life would be of interest.

So, if they want the planet or if they want to learn about life on earth, they would have a reason to come here.

Why then, remain hidden from human beings? Except for the odd sightings, like the recent one MtG described, or the sighting I had maybe 20 years ago. Unless of course the aliens are in contact with humans at some level. If it's a government or governments, why would they remain silent?

blah...

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Cross breeding genetic experiments with Ted Striker.

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Maybe they want our WOMEN!!!

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The aliens are Chinese?!!

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Or maybe they've found a way to turn viruses into some form of energy or uber efficient uber powerful energy nad they jsut drop within the atmosphere every once in a while to pick up some fuel.

Maybe they are lost...nobody ever considered that.

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As I've already said, they'r carousing teens drunk driving their dad's saucer.

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They fear we might blow ourselves up...

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Water. There are some suspiciously missing lakes in California and Kazakhistan.

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Lancer,

I believe the reasons for alien presence here are not understood yet and we can only guess. Possible reasons, all speculative, include that Earth is a planet with some rare characteristics (high amount of water or whatever) so it's of interest to the aliens, or that the aliens have been intervening on Earth for a long time and it's kind of an observation project for them, or that Earth isn't even of particular interest, but they observe all populated planets within their reach.

Making a healthy assumption that the government (this actually means several governments) knows about the aliens, it wouldn't be surprising that there's no disclosure. After all, such a disclosure would unfortunately have consequences too big. No, I'm an optimist, and I think that information should be disclosed. But the damage done to, for example, some religious groups could be very big, directly disproving that humans are the only intelligent beings. On the other hand, I believe that religion would deal with aliens just as it did with the revelations that the Earth is round, that the Earth goes around the Sun and that genetic traits exist.

As to why the aliens themselves are unwilling to show their presence, there can again be several reasons. One might be pretty much the same as above, them believing that the social consequences would be too bad. Another might be that they don't want us to have their technology, which could happen if they disclosed their presence (and obviously any alien race that has the capability to travel here has technology far more advanced than ours). If Earth is an observation laboratory for them, then they would try to stay hidden for the "purity of experiment".

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Why do we observe tribes in the amazon...

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Why do we observe tribes in the amazon...


So we can see an ancient part of our past and better understand how we got to where we are now?

What if earth was 'seeded' by an intelligent race of aliens in the first place? And they just pop back now and then to see how it goes.

hmmm........ maybe they are under threat in their own galaxy and being so civilised have forgotten how to be good warriors, so the earth is an alien military experiment to breed a violent psychopathic warrior race(might explain much of our violent history?).


but i think i could go for Ted's idea, if it became less exclusive

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They're using Earth as the settings for the latest installment of alien Survivor.

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IF YOU BELIEVE IN ALIENS YOU SUPPORT TERRORISM!!!!!!

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If aliens rape your ass you support terrorism!!!!!!!!!!pink!!!

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Maybe they want our WOMEN!!!

Man, I don't believe in coincidences any more! I just watched I Married A Monster From Outer Space (don't let the title put you on the wrong foot, it is almost as good as the original Body Snatchers!) and you're right on the mark

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I Married A Monster From Outer Space (don't let the title put you on the wrong foot


Well, it does make me think of tentacle rape...

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"I'm here only for the beer"

Used to be such posters around, with the basic "grey"-alien with a bottle...

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"I'm here only for the beer"

Used to be such posters around, with the basic "grey"-alien with a bottle...
Well the Farmer in New Mexico said they were not green.

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Lancer,

I believe the reasons for alien presence here are not understood yet and we can only guess. Possible reasons, all speculative, include that Earth is a planet with some rare characteristics (high amount of water or whatever) so it's of interest to the aliens, or that the aliens have been intervening on Earth for a long time and it's kind of an observation project for them, or that Earth isn't even of particular interest, but they observe all populated planets within their reach.


I believe that most planets which would support the development of space travelers would have a lot of water. Tool using sentient beings would have to evolve on land, but it takes a lot of ocean water to evaporate enough moisture to support life on land. Consider how much of the world's land mass is desert despite the fact that 2/3rds of the Earth's surface is covered by oceans.

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Consider how much of the world's land mass is desert despite the fact that 2/3rds of the Earth's surface is covered by oceans.


That has more to do with the climatic patterns.

Some areas get huge amounts of rainfall while some others receive almost none.

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Wellllllll,
I saw the thing, comin' out of the sky,
It had one big horn and one big eye,
I began a shakin' and I said "Oooohie,
It looks like a purple people eater to me."

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater,
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater,
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater.
Sure looked strange to me.

Well, it came down to Earth and it sat in a tree.
I said, "Mr. Purple People Eater, don't eat me."
I heard him say in a voice so gruff,
"I wouldn't eat you, cause you're so tuff."

It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater,
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater,
One-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater.
Sure looked strange to me.

I said, "Mr. Purple People Eater what's your line?"
He said, "Eatin' purple people, and it sure is fine.
But that' not the reason why I came to land,
I want to get a job in a rock-and-roll band."

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Sorry for my delay in responding, it seems like my ISP has been banned and I can only log in from work.


Solver posted the following:

I believe the reasons for alien presence here are not understood yet and we can only guess. Possible reasons, all speculative, include that Earth is a planet with some rare characteristics (high amount of water or whatever) so it's of interest to the aliens, or that the aliens have been intervening on Earth for a long time and it's kind of an observation project for them, or that Earth isn't even of particular interest, but they observe all populated planets within their reach.

Solver, there's lots of water in the solar system. Metiors or asteroids or something is made of ice. Also, one of the moons around one of the gas giants has lots of water and there cis speculation that it may hold life in oceans under the ice. Water isn't particularly rare.

"Making a healthy assumption that the government (this actually means several governments) knows about the aliens, it wouldn't be surprising that there's no disclosure. After all, such a disclosure would unfortunately have consequences too big. No, I'm an optimist, and I think that information should be disclosed. But the damage done to, for example, some religious groups could be very big, directly disproving that humans are the only intelligent beings. On the other hand, I believe that religion would deal with aliens just as it did with the revelations that the Earth is round, that the Earth goes around the Sun and that genetic traits exist."

Consequences too big? Like what? The religious thing, do you really think any church would care about such a disclosure? The Catholics said we were the center of the universe and they were wrong. Persecuted an innocent they did. I doubt they're still stuck on that. Besides, in the bible Jesus says he has to go and tend other flocks, or something like that. Could be he's got more going on in this big universe that this little world.

"As to why the aliens themselves are unwilling to show their presence, there can again be several reasons. One might be pretty much the same as above, them believing that the social consequences would be too bad. Another might be that they don't want us to have their technology, which could happen if they disclosed their presence (and obviously any alien race that has the capability to travel here has technology far more advanced than ours). If Earth is an observation laboratory for them, then they would try to stay hidden for the "purity of experiment"."

Yeah, the Star Trek thing. I doubt it myself. I'm more inclined to think they either just couldn't be bothered because they are so advanced, or that they don't because of religious reasons, ie God told them not to mess. Satan and his angels cast out, this planet their destination because luci8fer was in charge of it, (or something like that) makes earth a place of great interest for the universe but also a quarantined planet.

Man I miss spell checker.

"Man, I don't believe in coincidences any more! I just watched I Married A Monster From Outer Space (don't let the title put you on the wrong foot, it is almost as good as the original Body Snatchers!) and you're right on the mark "

Hueij, if they were here for the women then there is no intellegent life in the universe.

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"So we can see an ancient part of our past and better understand how we got to where we are now?

What if earth was 'seeded' by an intelligent race of aliens in the first place? And they just pop back now and then to see how it goes.

hmmm........ maybe they are under threat in their own galaxy and being so civilised have forgotten how to be good warriors, so the earth is an alien military experiment to breed a violent psychopathic warrior race(might explain much of our violent history?). "

child of Thor, blaming the aliens for humanity's malfunctions?

If they can fly across the galaxy and they need us to fight a war for them, well then they are in trouble.

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That has more to do with the climatic patterns.

Some areas get huge amounts of rainfall while some others receive almost none.


Or, in the case of the Aral sea and others, its because someone damns off all the tributaries and reroutes the river elsewhere to irrigate the land.

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I'm always amused to be told that the same government that can't keep the press from finding out that the President is receiving extra-marital blowjobs (much less able to break into a hotel room) is capable of suppressing an alien-research project that has been ongoing for, what, 57 years now?

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I'm always amused to be told that the same government that can't keep the press from finding out that the President is receiving extra-marital blowjobs (much less able to break into a hotel room) is capable of suppressing an alien-research project that has been ongoing for, what, 57 years now?
They do the blowjob screwups precisely to elicit that reaction from you.

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Aliens are here for 1 reason and 1 reason only; SciFi movie extras.

They just love to see themselves on the big screen.

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They do the blowjob screwups precisely to elicit that reaction from you.


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That has more to do with the climatic patterns.

Some areas get huge amounts of rainfall while some others receive almost none.


Yes, but any planet with oceans and land masses is going to have weather patterns. My point is that if a planet had considerably less water than the Earth, with other characteristics being relatively equal, it would have considerably less arable land.

 
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