14-06-2005 23:14									#1
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Why did they do it? Why?!

I saw a CivIV screenshot with a city name "Cherokee". Did they commit the Ultimate Faux Pas from CtP? Did they reduce the Native Americans to a "Native American" civ with cities named after tribes rather than using a specific tribe?

Do we have a "European" civ with cities called "France", "Italy" and "Norway"?

No. We do not. We WOULD not.

Do they not understand why Canadians refer to them as First NATIONS?

Why am I so enraged by this?

It's not like there aren't enough unique and successful native American nations to focus on. The original Souix were great. The Iroquois were even better. The Navajo would be a fantastic addition. Would it not be cool to see War Chief Narbona show up as your avatar? For that matter, if Ghandi can be an avatar, would Sitting Bull be the pre-eminent diplomacy screen avatar?

Maybe that's what they've done. But Sitting Bull was not a Cherokee chief. Not at all.

Oh, I need a more productive hobby.

	14-06-2005 23:16									#2
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Who said that the Native Americans are a civ in Civ4 ?

	15-06-2005 11:43									#3
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Did the Cherokee have city names?

	15-06-2005 14:23									#4
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Apparently so... http://www.cherokeeheritagetrails.org/

	15-06-2005 17:08									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Did the Cherokee have city names?

Of course they did.

	15-06-2005 17:36									#6
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from the info so far

http://civilization4.net/3/114/136/

there arent any native americans. just "americans"....

	15-06-2005 18:59									#7
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Can't wait to see a Cherokee F-15

	15-06-2005 20:10									#8
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As things go, even if they did reduce them to a native american civ, it's a pretty silly thing to get so upset over.

	15-06-2005 21:14									#9
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Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a heartache
Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a mistake
Tell me why
I never wanna hear you say
I want it that way
heartbreak heartbreak heartbreak

	15-06-2005 23:52									#10
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They lived in peace, not long ago
A mighty Indian tribe
But the winds of change,
Made them realize, that the promises were lies.

The white man's greed, in search of gold
Made the nation bleed
They lost their faith
And now they hade to learn
There was no place to return
Nowhere they could turn.

Cherokee - marching on the trail of tears.

They were driven hard, across the plains
And walked for many moons
Cause the winds of change,
Had made them realize, that the promises were lies.

So much to bear, all that pain
Left them in despair
They lost their faith
And now they hade to learn
There was no place to return
Nowhere they could turn.

	16-06-2005 01:04									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg They lived in peace, not long ago A mighty Indian tribe But the winds of change, Made them realize, that the promises were lies. The white man's greed, in search of gold Made the nation bleed They lost their faith And now they hade to learn There was no place to return Nowhere they could turn.

Ah, those peaceful children of nature.

	16-06-2005 13:46									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker it's a pretty silly thing to get so upset over.

I agree.