15-06-2005 22:23									#1
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Hi again!

Well, you guys probably won't remember me at all... I'll just get straight to the point.
I was a (modestly) active member of the alpha centauri forums here at apolyton about two years ago, but a combination of circumstances (loads of work at college, being without a computer for a long time and got used to reading long books, and others...) kinda forced me to to disappear from apolyton for a long time. I got out of the rythm of spending a lot of time on online forums but lately I've got a little more spare time and I rediscovered the old but classic game SMAC(X). After all that time, I still enjoy it greatly so I decided to come and have a look at apolyton again...

Apparantly my old account still exists, that's great And looking over my PMs, the last one dates back from december '03... wow, that really *is* a long time.

Next thing I noticed was that there's a new ACDG. I was a member of the cycon in the 2nd one and I really liked all the tactics, the big plans and the diplomacy... the role-playing obviously was cool too, but I always enjoyed the strategy part a little more Thinking about it, maybe I'd like to join in sometime, is the democracy game still open to total newcomers? do you guys spend a lot of time in it (i.e. is it still active)?

Talking about activity, do you people who hang around here still play a lot of SMAC? or is it all primarily Civ3 now? Well, I also installed Civ3 again some time ago, but didn't find it as much fun as AC. I can't give very good reasons, it's more of a feeling. Civ3's graphics seem kind of confusing to me (too much detail and not enough oversight) and the game interface is so annoying... moving your units around takes way too much time


Anyway, the feeling to 'be back around' is great. Thanks for reading through my ramblings (if you didn't skip right to the bottom, that is ) and all replies are welcome!

	15-06-2005 22:32									#2
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its a smac forum so yeah we all play smac cos civ 3 sucks

	15-06-2005 23:11									#3
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This forum is moderated so please refrain from using that "C" word.

	16-06-2005 00:50									#4
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Mentioned Civilization 3 three times in the opening post.

In accordance with the U.N. Charter, 30 years of economic sanctions have been imposed.

	16-06-2005 02:54									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Phenix Talking about activity, do you people who hang around here still play a lot of SMAC? or is it all primarily Civ3 now?

I have never owned Civ 3, nor do I plan to: SMAC(X) is the only game I play/ mod in.
I may buy Civ 4 (or cIV as it seems to be refered to now), but probably more to look into building a SMACX mod off of it, rather than for playing the base cIV.

quote: Originally posted by Illuminatus Mentioned Civilization 3 ... In accordance with the U.N. Charter, 30 years of economic sanctions have been imposed.

Crap! Should've read that post first!


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	16-06-2005 03:26									#6
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I downloaded Civ3 ^^

I played Civ3 before SMAC and am now quite unable to go back.
I've been playing a bit of Civ2 though and am quite impressed with that although I don't understand the intricacies yet. Though I think SMACs war is too attack orientated, I'm having trouble adapting to Civ2's very defensible cities. (The annihilation of entire stacks makes me want to murder things)

	16-06-2005 03:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Illuminatus Mentioned Civilization 3 three times in the opening post. In accordance with the U.N. Charter, 30 years of economic sanctions have been imposed.

Great...

Senethro, I played some Civ2 after I'd played SMAC... Nothing to write home about, SMAC is better at every point.

	16-06-2005 11:08									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro I've been playing a bit of Civ2 though and am quite impressed with that although I don't understand the intricacies yet. Though I think SMACs war is too attack orientated, I'm having trouble adapting to Civ2's very defensible cities. (The annihilation of entire stacks makes me want to murder things)

Yes, return to the fold of the true successor to Sid's greatness, Civ2! SMAC is a good game, but cold and clinical. Civ2 is warm and pleasant! Come, breathe the clean air of mother Earth and leave the sweaty filter masks of Chiron behind.

	16-06-2005 12:38									#9
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I played Civ 3 for about a month until I truly realized the diplomacy in it was EXTREMELY sh*tty compared to the diplomacy in SMAC/X...SMAC has the best diplomacy interface (as well as the AI's intelligence in diplomacy) that I've been trying to find a better game at diplomacy for 5 friggin years...and still haven't found it.

I just like how you can say, screw you in one session then say...ok ok, FINE, I'll give you this for ______. Best ever.



And yes, I do remember you being here, but vaguely tho....but taking a break from 'Poly isn't necessarily a bad thing unless you're going for notoriety.

	16-06-2005 17:22									#10
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quote: In accordance with the U.N. Charter, 30 years of economic sanctions have been imposed.

Was deserved..

I actually have played that "other game" of Firaxis, but became bored very quickly.

	16-06-2005 21:20									#11
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Should have read that charted first... I'll burn my copy of 'that other game' ritually to make up


Anyway, I'm glad to see some other people sharing my opinion... feels nice to meet like-minded strategy players!
Cya around

	16-06-2005 21:28									#12
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Come to MP forum and get involved in some real fighting!

	16-06-2005 22:01									#13
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I just signed up for the ACDG...
if all goes well, you guys can expect to notice me soon, buying Planet from under your feet with loads of energy credits (three guesses which fraction I chose )

By the way, great to see some other Belgian people on apolyton... it seems our little country is represented quite well here!

	16-06-2005 22:32									#14
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Hey, we're the secret masters of this world, what do you expect.

	17-06-2005 00:35									#15
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Well, I knew that SMACers didn't exactly like civ 3, but I didn't know they hated it...

Obviously, I understand why, but I don't necessarily agree...I think civ 3 is a good game, but it has many issues...then again, so does SMAC...

	17-06-2005 03:50									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Commy Well, I knew that SMACers didn't exactly like civ 3, but I didn't know they hated it... Obviously, I understand why, but I don't necessarily agree...I think civ 3 is a good game, but it has many issues...then again, so does SMAC...

I don't hate it -- I just find it inferior and would much prefer to play civ2

	17-06-2005 03:52									#17
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Oh and to the original poster

WELCOME BACK


although I confess I don't remember you. Were you more of a lurker or spen lots of time in the creation section or something since I have been frequenting the strategy and multiplayer sections for quite a while

	17-06-2005 03:59									#18
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Welcome back!

	17-06-2005 20:23									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Phenix Hi again!

"Hi" for the first time.

quote: Originally posted by Phenix Well, you guys probably won't remember me at all

Nope.

quote: Originally posted by Phenix ... I'll just get straight to the point.

That's good....better than answering a post one sentence at a time. Annoying, isn't it?

quote: Originally posted by Phenix I was a (modestly) active member of the alpha centauri forums here at apolyton about two years ago

Welcome Back.

quote: Originally posted by Phenix but a combination of circumstances (loads of work at college, being without a computer for a long time and got used to reading long books, and others...) kinda forced me to to disappear from apolyton for a long time.

Yes, I've heard of this. I believe they refer to this as "having a life".

quote: Originally posted by Phenix Talking about activity, do you people who hang around here still play a lot of SMAC?

We are all hopelessly addicted. Even when we do quit, we fall back off the wagon eventually.

Hello, My name is Livid Imp. And I am a SMAC addict. It has been two weeks since my last hit of SMAC and the withdrawls are terrible......oh dear, I believe I just soiled myself again.

quote: Originally posted by Phenix Well, I also installed Civ3 again some time ago, but didn't find it as much fun as AC. I can't give very good reasons, it's more of a feeling. Civ3's graphics seem kind of confusing to me (too much detail and not enough oversight) and the game interface is so annoying... moving your units around takes way too much time

We couldn't agree more. Civ3 is for "Cimpletons"

	17-06-2005 22:53									#20
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Cimpletons, good word.

	19-06-2005 05:53									#21
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No, Civ 3 is for people who can't aspire there future and fear their future might be a horrible failure, so they attempt to change their past by playing Civ 3...