16-06-2005 00:57									#1
	shameful admission #22. I don't know how to drive a manual transmission- teach me Full PM-box? Change here!

teach me please

I was thinking about buying a car that is more environmentally friendly. I love my pickup, but I feel guilty about driving it now. I'm going to buy a used car. I don't have much money, so I may have to buy a car with a manual transmission. But I never learned how to properly drive one. I tried learning on a 1976 plymouth volarie once, I couldn't seem to figure it out. but I didn't have a good teacher. I'm good at starting off in first gear, it's switching gears I can't figure out. I'm always too scared I'll mess up the transmission.

	16-06-2005 00:58									#2
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Shameful Admission #1: I dont know how to drive. At all.

	16-06-2005 00:59									#3
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hehe, practise is the keyword
good luck

	16-06-2005 01:00									#4
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I don't know how to drive a stick shift either. I've never sat in the driver's seat of one either.

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its easy.

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DL alert.

and practice is the kind of advice I don't like . It's like when people tell me to be confident when talking to girls when trying to help me with my girl problems.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident DL alert. and practice is the kind of advice I don't like . It's like when people tell me to be confident when talking to girls when trying to help me with my girl problems.

Illur is TLC's sister. She comes from Eventis. She is nay a DL.

	16-06-2005 01:03									#8
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quote: I'm always too scared I'll mess up the transmission.

Be confident.

	16-06-2005 01:03									#9
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there are three pedals - clutch, break, gas (from left to right.) to change gears, you need to push the clutch all the way in.

so.

when the car is off, put the stick in neutral. then press the brake and turn the car on (flat ground is a good spot to start) then press the clutch down (with your left foot, while keeping the right foot on the break) move the gear shifter into (1) then give some gas and slowly release the clutch. dont be afraid to give too much gas, but dont floor it either.

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quote: Originally posted by Space05us Illur is TLC's sister. She comes from Eventis. She is nay a DL.

LIES! clearly i'm a DL!

	16-06-2005 01:11									#11
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Me neither. Do what Theben did. Test drive manual transmission cars until you figure it out.

	16-06-2005 01:18									#12
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learning to drive cars without manual transmission are stupid

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Is this the really foul and shameful thing you wouldn't talk about in the shame thread?

	16-06-2005 01:25									#14
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Or as an alternative to Lawrences suggestion.

1 : Press clutch in fully. It doesn't matter if the transmission is in or not, just make sure you have it in either 1 or R (2 will probably work) when you pull out the clutch later.

2 : Turn on the engine. The brake should be pressed down if the car is in such a position that it might roll.

3 : Pull the clutch up at an even pace while giving a bit of gas. Use the clutch at this point to regulate speed.

4 : Drive

5 : When you need to change gears, press the clutch down at an even speed while you let go off the gas pedal.

6 : While the clutch is down, change to whatever gear you want, then press the clutch down again while giving a bit of gas. Experience lets you know the proper timing to give gas to keep speed. You can give gas later (if you change fast enough), you will just lose speed while changing if you do that.

7 : To park, stop car with the clutch held down, turn off the engine, switch to gear 1 (this stops the car from moving, using the handbrake is also possible), then step away from the car.


I think that about covers it, unless I have forgotten some critical detail (or just had a brainfart and written something wrong at one point).

	16-06-2005 01:27									#15
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agreed with Che, learn to do it on someone else's car.
We learned when we were kids by driving the truck used to pick up the golf balls at the driving range. (We all wanted to make the big bucks car parking at the country club in the evenings so we had to learn)
By the end of the summer, the trunk only had two working gears, 2nd and 4th. It made picking up the range quite exciting since you were draging around the heavy device for picking up the balls.

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Is this the really foul and shameful thing you wouldn't talk about in the shame thread?

It's only #22. I have 21 others. Though I admitted one of them. I like the french and french culture. that is #3 on my list.

	16-06-2005 01:29									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Minodrin Or as an alternative to Lawrences suggestion. 1 : Press clutch in fully. It doesn't matter if the transmission is in or not, just make sure you have it in either 1 or R (2 will probably work) when you pull out the clutch later. 2 : Turn on the engine. The brake should be pressed down if the car is in such a position that it might roll. 3 : Pull the clutch up at an even pace while giving a bit of gas. Use the clutch at this point to regulate speed. 4 : Drive 5 : When you need to change gears, press the clutch down at an even speed while you let go off the gas pedal. 6 : While the clutch is down, change to whatever gear you want, then press the clutch down again while giving a bit of gas. Experience lets you know the proper timing to give gas to keep speed. You can give gas later (if you change fast enough), you will just lose speed while changing if you do that. 7 : To park, stop car with the clutch held down, turn off the engine, switch to gear 1 (this stops the car from moving, using the handbrake is also possible), then step away from the car. I think that about covers it, unless I have forgotten some critical detail (or just had a brainfart and written something wrong at one point).

you make it seem too easy. wikipedia has all kinds of instructions. Inlcuding shifting at appropiate RPM's. It's hard driving safely when you have to glance down at the tachometer frequently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual...iving_technique

	16-06-2005 01:31									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Minodrin Or as an alternative to Lawrences suggestion. 6 : While the clutch is down, change to whatever gear you want, then press the clutch down again while giving a bit of gas. Experience lets you know the proper timing to give gas to keep speed. You can give gas later (if you change fast enough), you will just lose speed while changing if you do that.

Isn't this just for double clutch vehicles?

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meh, it looks too complicated. I'll just buy a car with an automatic. . but wikipedia says you can get an estra 2 mpg from a manual transmission. That's hard to pass up.

	16-06-2005 01:36									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Minodrin 6 : While the clutch is down, change to whatever gear you want, then press the clutch down again while giving a bit of gas. Experience lets you know the proper timing to give gas to keep speed. You can give gas later (if you change fast enough), you will just lose speed while changing if you do that.

I think that releasing the clutch after shifting gears and give some appropriate gas is better than pressing the clutch

Gearing down involves clutch, break appropriate, shift gear down release clutch and pess gas gently.

Oh, and don't jump over gears unless you are breaking heavily.

	16-06-2005 01:38									#21
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quote: Originally posted by rah Isn't this just for double clutch vehicles?

I think that it was his brainfart

	16-06-2005 01:40									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident you make it seem too easy. wikipedia has all kinds of instructions. Inlcuding shifting at appropiate RPM's. It's hard driving safely when you have to glance down at the tachometer frequently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual...iving_technique

You don't have to look at the tachometer - just listen to the engine - after some practice you know when to shift.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident meh, it looks too complicated. I'll just buy a car with an automatic. . but wikipedia says you can get an estra 2 mpg from a manual transmission. That's hard to pass up.

Better fuel economy, faster acceleration, pinpoint control on parking....

	16-06-2005 01:53									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident meh, it looks too complicated. I'll just buy a car with an automatic. . but wikipedia says you can get an estra 2 mpg from a manual transmission. That's hard to pass up.

Plus on a new car it seems to save you between 750 and 2000 smackeroos.


Our Civic is standard but the minivan only came automatic IIRC


Instructions have already been given in detail. You don't need to watch RPMs as Engine sound and feel will cue you after a while. On a bicycle you know when to change gears , right ??

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It's tough to teach someone how to grow testicles.

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i don't know how to ride a bike.

	16-06-2005 01:59									#27
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Actually, the clutch isn't nessecary - I have once experienced a broken clutch cable and managed to get the car to the repair shop.

It was easy to gear up, but a little difficult to gear down.

	16-06-2005 02:12									#28
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I learned to drive a stick when I was 33, from QOTM. Motive was to save money on a new car. She learned from the autodealer who sold her a previous car.

Its not all that hard. But I think easier to learn from someone, than from written instructions, here or anywhere else.

Hint - try to learn someplace FLAT. I learned in Northern Virginia. Ouch.

For years afterwards QOTM insisted I wasnt doing it right. I love catching her in the wrong gear

And I still think its a pain in *ss.

Easier parking?? What are you talking about - i much prefer parking an automatic.

	16-06-2005 02:15									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia there are three pedals - clutch, break, gas (from left to right.) to change gears, you need to push the clutch all the way in. so. when the car is off, put the stick in neutral. then press the brake and turn the car on (flat ground is a good spot to start) then press the clutch down (with your left foot, while keeping the right foot on the break) move the gear shifter into (1) then give some gas and slowly release the clutch. dont be afraid to give too much gas, but dont floor it either.

Why press the brake when you're holding the clutch down?

	16-06-2005 02:25									#30
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To keep it from rolling downhill.