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Berzerker is offline Berzerker
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Is it any wonder so many foreigners think Americans are self-centered hypocrites who employ double standards whenever it suits us? Aruba is a fairly peaceful place but now because an American girl was likely murdered there, we hear calls to boycott the island.

Wtf?

Do these people call for boycotts of America because of all the murders we have? Do they advise the rest of the world to boycott us based on the same "logic"?

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Why the **** is that stupid girl news?!?

Oh, yeah. She's pretty, female, and white.

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Don't forget blond.

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I already have a thread on this.

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Geez. It wasn't even a hate crime AFAIK. WTF?

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Sidney Ponson must be pleased as punch to see his former home get all this bad press.

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The irony being displayed is truly stunning. A relatively peaceful place is being smeared by people living in a relatively violent place. You know, it appears Aruba's other policies are fueling the calls for boycott. Drinking age is 18, other drugs, at least some of the lighter ones like pot, are largely ignored, prostitution is tolerated even if it may be illegal, etc. Sounds almost libertarian to me...

Of course, it doesn't help that one of the suspects is the kid of an Aruban official and it appears favoritism may have played a part. But it ain't like politically connected people in this country are treated the same way Joe 6-pack is treated.

Oh well, the Jackson trial is over and our elite media need something else to harp about.

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Shortly after her disappearence her parents went on TV complaining that the Aruba police weren't doing anything because her fgamily wasn't rich. That stirred alot of sympathy in the US. Now the American news seem to be unable to stop reporting on the case.

On the bright side little Jon Benet is now being allowed to rest in peace by The National Enquirer.

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Berzerker,

Your and mine's favorite word applies here -- because we as a nation are HYPOCRITES.

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Why the **** is that stupid girl news?!?

Oh, yeah. She's pretty, female, and white.

She's not pretty.

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Is it any wonder so many foreigners think Americans are self-centered hypocrites who employ double standards whenever it suits us? Aruba is a fairly peaceful place but now because an American girl was likely murdered there, we hear calls to boycott the island.

Wtf?

Do these people call for boycotts of America because of all the murders we have? Do they advise the rest of the world to boycott us based on the same "logic"?


in any case the boycotts are called for because of the racial profiling and the arrest of 2 innocent black men. Not because of a dead white girl.

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She's not pretty.


she's ****ing hot. I'd have sex with her a 1000 times over.

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She's not pretty.


She's better looking than the women I've dated.

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Maybe the only pic I saw was a bad one or I misremember.

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Who is actually calling for an Aruba boycott?

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Who is actually calling for an Aruba boycott?


americans upset over racial profiling and the arrest of 2 innocent black men.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/ameri...ests/index.html

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she's ****ing hot. I'd have sex with her a 1000 times over.


Necrophiliac.

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Boycotting over this?! pah.

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I boycott America because of it's high murder rate.

Was Aruba a British or Dutch colony? Just wondering what money I have to take to a country where the beaches are nice, the people friendly, and the insane reactionary Americans are 4000 miles away.

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Dutch colony, IIRC.

Now, which country murders the most pretty American girls? Let's find out and boycott them!

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its a ex-dutch colony...and AFAIK also one dutch guy has been arrested in aruba for the murder of the girl...

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ex-dutch colony


No, it's still Dutch. It just has a 'status aparte' (i.e. slightly more autonomy than the rest of the Dutch Antilles).

DeathByTheSword is offline DeathByTheSword
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true enough...

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I boycott America because of it's high murder rate.

Was Aruba a British or Dutch colony? Just wondering what money I have to take to a country where the beaches are nice, the people friendly, and the insane reactionary Americans are 4000 miles away.



When I was in St. Martin, some years ago, priced were quoted in Francs on the French side. On the Dutch side prices were quoted in dollars. Of course they were happy to take dollars on the French side as well. I presume now that prices on both sides are quoted in Euros, but that both sides STIILL are happy to take dollars. So i wouldnt worry what currency you carry - this is the West Indies man, they like MONEY, period.

And yes, I recall a few years ago Euros being afraid to go to, I think Miami, cause of some incidents involving rental cars.

Im not to in sympathy with the anger about this getting covered. I mean I might choose to cover other things, sure. But this IS a tragic situation, whether its newsworthy or not. It doesnt call for some of the snarkiness here. Look, you dont like the news judgement of the mainstream media, dont watch/read them. Theres plenty of other sources.

BTW, when was the last time an 18 year old Black American female student went missing in the West Indies??

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"These horrible e-mails, just horrible," Renfro said. "They were from both blacks and whites from there in the United States, only the United States, criticizing Aruba and how they planned to never set foot on Aruba ever again ... [b]because of the cruelty against these two security guards, how it was so obvious to anyone around the world ... that this was discrimination."[b]


Now tell me how this makes America "reactionary"???

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Now, which country murders the most pretty American girls?


The USA. D'uh.

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americans upset over racial profiling and the arrest of 2 innocent black men.


Do you mean a subset of those who sent the 200 e-mails? If so, then that's a pretty pathetic boycott...

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