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Allemand is offline Allemand
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Graphics are important if the game is to be a success. I remember the bad graphics in those Civ flops. What were they....."Call to Power" and two others, I can't even remember the names now. Some of the graphics were so bright they ruined my "night" vision. And the unit icons were not sized well or were "camouflaged" so that they could not be seen, especially after looking at the polar caps. Hmm, maybe that was a game design.

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so that they could not be seen, especially after looking at the polar caps. Hmm, maybe that was a game design.


They were trying to be soooo realistic that they even modeled in snowblindness.

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Graphics are important if the game is to be a success. I remember the bad graphics in those Civ flops. What were they....."Call to Power" and two others, I can't even remember the names now.


The graphics in SMAC was very bad too, but it was more a bad color choice than anything. If I could play SMAC with Civ1 graphics I would love the game

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Neither of which is on the Iranian flag.


One of these was on the Shah's flag. The Islamic Republic changed the flag.

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I used to like the lion and sword.

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You completely missed the point of graphics. They aren't there for the player - they are there to sell the game.

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to 12 year olds

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I don't like the graphics either.

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good to know

See Firaxis? Even the kiddies don't like it.

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good to know

See Firaxis? Even the kiddies don't like it.


It's not that they're aiming it at kiddies, but it's that they're aiming it at fluffly casual gamers who can't pass Cheiftan.

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Tsk, tsk, tsk.

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check out the last video...world overview

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/620/620513/vids_1.html

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bad sound...just look at what one can do

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Luckily I'm too dumb to realize how bad those graphics are, the game looks great.

However, I do hope that I can turn off the "Ready for your orders" stuff when I select a unit. That gets real old after the 10,000 time.

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yeah - damn those little voice overs like "at your command" really grate

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In civ2 I've changed nearly every unit graphic, terrain graphic and city style, I imagine I'll get around to doing the same to CivIV if the game is worth the effort. I've learned to curb the graphics fear.

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Hey! you never go OT no more.

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I rarely ever went OT, I've been away from poly for a couple months, just coming back now.

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I like the graphics. They're very lively and bright, which I like in games. I've seen enough murky games.

Its a new look, but I'm sure I'll get used to it quickly.

Also don't forget they're playing the game all the time. Included 100 or so testers. If the graphic were hard to read or anything they would have changed them.

Unit scale is big, but that always been the case with Civ, don't really understand what is different now. Plus they're scalable anyway so there will be scale mods for sure, maybe even an ingame slider?

Wonder how those units will compare to the colossus wonder... he’ll have a hard time competing with the “puny” humans

 
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