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Romanian priest unrepentant after crucifixion of nun
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TANACU, Romania (AFP) - A Romanian Orthodox priest, facing charges for ordering the crucifixion of a young nun because she was "possessed by the devil," was unrepentant as he celebrated a funeral ceremony for his alleged victim.

"God has performed a miracle for her, finally Irina is delivered from evil," Father Daniel, 29, the superior of the Holy Trinity monastery in north-eastern Romania, told an AFP reporter before celebrating a short liturgy "for the soul of the deceased", in the presence of 13 nuns who showed no visible emotion.

He insisted that from the religious point of view the crucifixion of Maricica Irina Cornici, 23, was "entirely justified," but admitted he faced excommunication as well as prosecution, and was seeking a "good lawyer."

Prosecutors said Saturday they had charged the priest and four nuns with imprisonment leading to death, while religious authorities said he would be barred from celebrating liturgy until the investigation was completed. The monastery will be shut if they are found guilty, Father Daniel's superiors said.

Cornici was found dead on Wednesday, gagged and chained to a cross, after fellow nuns called an ambulance, according to police.

Mihaela Straub, spokeswoman for the police in the province of Vaslui, said Daniel and four other nuns had claimed Cornici was possessed and should be exorcised.

Before being crucified she had been kept shut up for several days, her hands and feet tied and without food or drink, he said.

Cornici had entered the monastery just three months before, after visiting a friend who was a nun there, police said.

As her coffin entered the church of the monastery Saturday no church bells were sounded while nuns cast distrustful glances at the strangers, including two AFP reporters, present at the ceremony.

Claps of thunder from an approaching storm were sometimes the only sounds to break the silence.

"This storm is proof that the will of God has been done," Daniel said.

"You see it?" said the priest, gesturing at the body, lying in an annex and still showing the marks of the gag.

Daniel has lived for the past four years in the isolated monastery located in the hills of one of the poorest regions of Romania, without running water or electricity.

"Over there, in your world, the people must know that the devil exists. Personally I can find his work in the gestures and speech of possessed people, because man is often weak and lets himself be easily manipulated by the forces of evil," said the bearded young priest.

"I don't understand why journalists are making such a fuss about this. Exorcism is a common practise in the heart of the Romanian Orthodox church and my methods are not at all unknown to other priests," he said.

Sociologist Alred Bulai said that corporal punishment was still commonly used in certain Romanian monasteries.

"It's happening particularly in the isolated monasteries, where the superiors have difficulty understanding the current realities and adapting themselves to modern life," Bulai said.

It was not clear why Father Daniel believed the nun was possessed. One parishoner, Dora, said the nun "had to be punished, she had an argument with the Father during a Sunday mass and insulted him in front of the congregation."

Mediafax news agency reported Saturday that the Cornici had recently been treated for "schizophrenia" at the local hospital, but the chief of the local child welfare office, Ionel Bratianu, said the nun was "in good health and did not suffer from any psychiatric trouble."

Cornici was raised in an orphanage until the age of 19, when she traveled to Germany to work as a nanny for a family of German doctors. After in-depth psychological and psychiatric tests, the German embassy had declared her apt to take care of children, said Bratianu.

Since the fall of the communist regime in December 1989, the Orthodox Church, which represents 85 percent of Romania's 22 million inhabitants, is rated in many opinion polls as the most trusted institution in the country.

Vitalie Danciu, the superior of a nearby monastery at Golia, called the crucifixion "inexcusable," but a spokesman for the Orthodox patriarchate in Bucharest refused to condemn it.

"I don't know what this young woman did," Bogdan Teleanu said.

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Lock the mad biblebashers up! To torture and execute a young woman in this manner is absolutely despicable...

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Killing in the name of God
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****, that's ****ing medieval

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Daniel has lived for the past four years in the isolated monastery located in the hills of one of the poorest regions of Romania, without running water or electricity.


It appears that he was driven batty because of this.

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Thousands of monasteries exist cut off from water and God without causing problems like this.

Will this be the end of the monastic movement?

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Thousands of monasteries exist cut off from water and God without causing problems like this.


Some people can hack it, others can't...

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Urban Ranger defending monasteries. Yeah, the fault lies more in the priest than the monastery.

My question is whether the priest is first excommunicated, and then prosecuted by the civil authorities.

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Romanian Orthodox...

Next time hopefully they'll know to call a Roman Catholic priest in to do a proper exorcism. I believe Catholic ones don't involve beating, murder or crucifixtion.

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Romanians are scarey people. They think of Dracula as a national hero.

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Little more than what would happen if a poor man made a wealthy or policitally connected man lose face in China.

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Little more than what would happen if a poor man made a wealthy or policitally connected man lose face in China.

This was a "in the US, it's even worse!!1" post. Congrats

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Romanians are scarey people. They think of Dracula as a national hero.


Well, he did save them from the Turks and impaled the POWs.

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This was a "in the US, it's even worse!!1" post. Congrats


Sorry, just got back from another day of horror stories, so I'll admit to some of my bias tonight.

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Well, he did save them from the Turks and impaled the POWs.


*insert silly 'people from the northeast med like to take it up the butt' joke*

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I asked in the other thread, I'll ask here:

What's a 29-yr-old doing being a priest and in charge of a church? Isn't he a bit too young?

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There are some other people a bit too young involved

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This isn't any different from David Koresh and other wackos we get over here. This wacko happens to be Orthodox instead.

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I asked in the other thread, I'll ask here:

What's a 29-yr-old doing being a priest and in charge of a church? Isn't he a bit too young?


Duh! Looking for little boys to ass rape.

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For the record this piece of news is false:
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Vitalie Danciu, the superior of a nearby monastery at Golia, called the crucifixion "inexcusable," but a spokesman for the Orthodox patriarchate in Bucharest refused to condemn it.

The Church has indeed condemned the act, and the priest and the nuns have been suspended.

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara Romanians are scarey people. They think of Dracula as a national hero.

You know what a history book looks like, don't you Dracula has as much to do with Bram Stoker's vampire as the Flintstones have with pre-history. But I do eat human children


Well, that was an interesting second post here

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Dracula has as much to do with Bram Stoker's vampire as the Flintstones have with pre-history. But I do eat human children


You mean Vlad the Impaler...

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More religious mania, glad they got busted for it.

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You mean Vlad the Impaler...

Who else?

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Romanians are scarey people. They think of Dracula as a national hero.


Hey, you have to take the fame where you can get it. It's not like Nicolai Chauchesku (communist dictator) was much better nor was Horia Sima (fascist dictator). Vlad and Chauchesku got the short end of the stick when they were assassinated while Sima got to obscond with most of the nation's gold and then retire in comfort in fascist Spain after the war. Sima even outlived Franco and continued living in his Spanish Villa until he died in the late 1980's. Not to many fascist dictators who took part in WW2 and the halocaust could live comfortably to a ripe old age like that without fear of arrest.

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Duh! Looking for little boys to ass rape.


I already made that joke

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Ahem...I'll thank you all to note that this is a single incident involving one apparently very ignorant priest. Also, Kuci, Oerdin and Ozzy might like to note that our priests, unlike the Catholics', have no record of molesting altar boys. Ours are allowed to be married, which might have something to do with it.

Speaking of which, why were there nuns and monks in the same monastery? That's not usual. They won't even allow female visitors on Mt. Athos...

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Also, Kuci, Oerdin and Ozzy might like to note that our priests, unlike the Catholics', have no record of molesting altar boys.


it's a joke.

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I'm aware it's a joke, but it's a nonsensical joke. We ain't Catholic. It's kinda like you just cracked a joke about the German army having sunburn on its armpits.

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And TLC, spamming CFC isn't enough, is it

No it isn't.

 
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