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mart7x5
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Yes, there is some extremely powerful strategy performed by AI regarding probe teams. They approach my bases in bunches like 3, or even recently 8. You take them out using just one unit.
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Darsnan
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New Syracuse, Beta Prime
Dec 2001
time: 00:37
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Originally posted by mart7x5
In 2218 Gaians launch succesful invasion from the sea and take one of my coastal bases. Gaians are the most powerful faction at the moment, also militarily, most versatile, have air and naval units. |
In my game the Gaians were absorbed by the Empire in around 2250. I never even saw any of their bases. The Cult, caught in between myself and the Agrians, were aborbed by the Agrians around 2250 as well. By 2300 the Agrians were "absorbed" by the Morganites!  There are now 3 huge power blocks in my game: Morganic Empire spanning all of the southern hemisphere, The Hive, and the Pirate/ Empire Coalition. For a while the Pirates were pacted with the Hive, but after I probe raped the Pirates and continually framed Yang, why that problem went away....
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Originally posted by mart7x5
A lot of probe teams is good in this scenario. Agrians have for example 23 operational probe teams, 6 in production and 61 lost. |
Darn good thing that CT didn't put Probe Cruisers in this one, or it would've been an absolute bear to deal with!
One strategy I saw the AI perform (or it may have just been an accident) is that the Pirates landed an attack force 2 tiles away from my northernmost base, then parked 3 Shard Interceptors over the pile of units. I only had one drop AA unit in the area, so had to wait and hope Sven didn't cover the units next turn. Fortunately he didn't, and so his attack force was eliminated.
My updated strategy: continue with "Operation Nickel and Dime" against the Pirates, in that I am plinking Pirate units as they present themselves, and slowly advancing the line northwards, taking control of Pirate bases as I go. A second seabourne attack force is currently assembling to take on the Hive's southeastern coast. Depending on how tough the Hive defenses are why I may just launch Doolittle style raids against the Hive by launching my carrier out from its home base, launching all embarked aircraft against Hive installations in suicide attacks, then retiring the carrier back to base to load up with another compliment of aircraft. If the Hive proves tough enough, then I'll probably launch PB's this way as well.....
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mart7x5
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In my game Empire seems to loose to Gaians. I think Deirdre will conquer them, but you never know. Anyway events develop differently. Hive and Gaians are making fusion planet busters already. Good thing I signed truce with Deirdre just recently. Agrians have air power by now.
Oh, Hive got Advanced spaceflight before me and is doing Living Refinery. I would prefer to have it. Yang seems to be good in crawler cashing in this scenario. Almost instabuilds...
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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This sounds like a blast-- I HAVE to try it
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Chaos Theory
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Missouri / Misery; CC
Oct 2002
time: 04:37
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Notes on continuing a scenario:
When a scenario is started, it takes appropriate files in the scenario directory (such as alphax.txt or hive.txt) and uses them in place of the ones in the main directory. When a save made during a scenario is started, this does not happen, although certain traits are already imprinted upon the game. To properly load such a save, you need to have all the .txt files included in the scenario in your main directory, achieved using a file swapper program, by swapping files yourself, or having an extra install for things like this.
Alternatively, you can save a new scenario. Accomplish this by hitting Ctrl-K, looking away from the screen while you select "Yes", and hitting Y to disable omniscient mode, then saving the scenario.
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mart7x5
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I hope not to stir anything here, but I noticed, that although load of the saved game gives me 2 warnings: AGRI and EMPIRE not found, later they are loaded probably correctly, as I see them ok.
Also, Chaos Theory, Agrians for example have 10 traits. Are you sure they load all correctly? I remember, some people report that only 8 are correctly loaded. However while some time I noticed only 8 loaded leaving some behind, it was possible to get more by special arrangement of them. You maybe have that arranged that way. Also I think somehow Mac users may use more than 8 traits.
This all probably will add to confusion.
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mart7x5
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Well, I just checked traits for agrians. They all seem to be ok.
Chaos, why not to write all 7 factions, or maybe only those with changes into scenario. As I found, game looks for appropriate txt faction file, so if you make changes to hive and name it "hive_sol5" for example, this gives certainty, that original hive will not be loaded
And well, my recent check indicated, that Gaians seem to be loaded ok with their new abilities from scenario folder rather than from main game folder. Although, F1 screen says "old" stuff. Gaians just have ok their new +2 fungnutrients and +1 fungminerals
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Darsnan
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New Syracuse, Beta Prime
Dec 2001
time: 00:37
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So in my version of the game both the Gaians and the Cult have been eliminated. When I finally started challenging Yang for supremacy in space (and the Space Elevator helped immensely here!  ) why I noticed that both the Gaians and Cult each had around 20 satelites in orbit!  Too bad theres no way to "acquire" these units.....
Anyways, this evening I will end my final turn (MY2324 or thereabouts), receive my final bombardment of Hive missiles against my forward positions, and the next turn I will build the Ascent to Transcendence SP, and the game will be over.
Probably no where near the best score, but I played a very esoteric version of Morgan, never Pacting with anyone, never running FM, and only accepting one Treaty in 2314 with the Empire.
Tough, very enjoyable scenario! I can't remember the last time that I stayed up past midnight twice playing a SP game!
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mart7x5
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Presently I have 2240, Cult does not exists for like 30 turns. Recently Niobe asked for truce and signed Treaty just a few turns before I could launch an offensive on her base with two good SP, HGP and CDF. Well, that additional energy will be very helpful in making maybe more troops, or I could maybe try mindcontroll that base...
I run Free Market almost all time, just as Morganities are designed.
Yes, Living Refinery kinda pushed Hive on top of the power score. Hive even took back 2 bases pirates conquered before. However, Pirates and Gaians hopefully will take care of Yang for the moment.
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mart7x5
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Re satellites:
Hive build 1 additional nutrient satelite.
In another game, I boosted AI with energy satellites. We had (it is multiplayer) randome events on. Solar flares destroyed all power satellites. I think AI will suffer tremendously, it was so far a good match, but they have only limmited number of nutrient and mineral satellites. It was around 2168. A good point to remember when designing such a game with mostly power satellites and random events on.
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mart7x5
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In Solstice_2005 I have 2255 now. Vendetta with Gaians only and Truce with Empire. The rest is in Treaty, apart from Cult of course. I even help that trecherous Svensgaard in order to keep Hive more managable. Just expanding to the regions where I still can without war. Agrians even recently took one of the bases from Hive. Oh, Volcano appeared north of Morgan territory, something like SSE from Empire coast. North from Geothermal Shallows. Nice terrain for take over, a lot of rainy tiles there.
Darsnan, how is your game?
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Xian
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Im doing terribly but then again I have significant difficulty with regular SMAX on transcend ( I can still win but not easily, and its rare that i do it by transcendence. By regular standards ive never been a good Smax player so my opnion of how difficult it is doenst count
one question though, are the AI factions meant to be so agressive?
Very good job
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Darsnan
I won in 2324. So you've got plenty of time to conquer Planet/ Transcend/ whatever, in order to beat my score.
BTW how is everyone else doing in this Challenge?
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I'm in 2220ish
The Gaians have been eradicated up north and I have lukewarm relations with the Hive and Empire-- varies between unfought wars and truces. I have fought the Pirates quite a bit and am now munching away on the Agrarians and assisting my pactmates the cult to do the same. Ever since I came to the cult's assistence to beat back the Agrarians the cult seems to love me. The Agrarians beg for a truce every turn but I'm not going for it. My first satellite will go up soon so I'll have a better idea what I face.
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mart7x5
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Originally posted by Darsnan
I won in 2324. So you've got plenty of time to conquer Planet/ Transcend/ whatever, in order to beat my score.
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Hive kinda escapes both militarily and scientifically. however, I got all satellites I could, based on my max base size, which is 11. Both nutrient and energy, still await mineral ones. I currently aspire to get cloning vats, and I have a chance. Slowly building military force for some faction take-over, I have now hovertanks, but in prototype stage. Hive will be a problem, since they can get Transced early. One of my weaknesses is that I trade technologies a lot, and AI for sure gets bonusses from it. I might even attack Hive as the first serious vendetta, skipping Agrians.
Guess who is the biggest environment pollutant.... Gaians 
Last edited by mart7x5 on 10-07-2005 at 13:19
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mart7x5
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The year is 2275. Hive is making Voice of Planet. No way I can slow them down. I traded techs for too long with Yang. Interesting though, Gaians and Empire stil exist in reasonable borders. The only faction eradicated is Cult.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Update
2227 and the Agrarians might have 5 more turns to live. The Cult loves me and has been gifting me units
The pirates keep dribbling units at me to die with no real damage on me.
The Hive looks formidable but I want to secure my flank before taking them on. The empire is far far away.
I am second to the hive on the powerchart . I have recently built the PEG and the AV and am about to complete the NA. This goes with the HGP, PTS,Supercollider, CF, CBA, and a couiple more I forget. Notable things I did not get included the empath guild ( I intentionally denied myself that), the WP and the HSA
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mart7x5
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In my game Hive was able to complete VoP in 2281. Then Transcendence in 2282. I switched to hive and just did that. However hive was not very succesful in its wars. Ocasional switching of bases with Pirates, Agrians, Gaians. Yang had very slow start and suddenly grew up at some point. My mistake was maintaining tech trades for long time.
I start the scanario once more. With correction of strategy
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Originally posted by Darsnan
Looks like your gonna best my score by about 100 turns! |
Well -- since I am 97 turns from your finish I have my doubts . I don't really have a sense of how many more years it will take me to transcend and I'm not quite sure what surprises yet might be in store.
Right now I am trying to beeline for the TOE to complete my SSC. I am raising land to the north like crazy for my energy park and the fact that it serves as a defensive barrier is also nice. The AI is about to get a bit tougher as both the Pirates and Cult are researching fusion power ( the Hive already has it).
My plan is to keep the Cult happy with me for a little while longer (staying in green) until I can get a few Punishment Spheres up and switch to FM again and if necessary I would then subjugate the Cult-- I'll have them pretty much surrounded once I finish with the Agrarians-- but I would prefer not to bother and keep them, as friendly pactmates
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28-06-2005 13:05
so that hurt my trade abit.
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