24-06-2005 13:02									#31
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 take for example DR's amazing luck, and our fairly poor luck, in the first archer battle.

You had bad luck when your Horse lost to our Archer, and then when our Horse killed your Spear on the hill.

The rest of it - our 2-attack Horses killing your 1-defence Archers, even on the hill, went with the odds.

One would expect with anywhere between 15 and 20 battles in a single turn, the RNG effects should be fairly well minimised. Somehow, I get the feeling this will be put to the test quite soon

	28-06-2005 17:08									#32
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Aqua,

Why do you think the Euphoricans are relaying on luck anyway, is it not enough to have conscripted in the opportunistic Horde as well? Surely they don't need all their army, a stack of 20 odd Hordites AND luck to acheive the current stalemate with us, do they?

	28-06-2005 18:58									#33
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No, we are NOT relying on luck. We mistrust luck due to that previous encounter. Hence we have ensured adequate force to end your vicious reign of Desolate, amusical terror ...

	28-06-2005 19:05									#34
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	28-06-2005 20:28									#35
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 No, we are NOT relying on luck. We mistrust luck due to that previous encounter. Hence we have ensured adequate force to end your vicious reign of Desolate, amusical terror ...

Adequate force?

Perhaps we'll see about that

	28-06-2005 20:32									#36
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Oh, does that mean you may have sent the save on?

	28-06-2005 23:28									#37
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No, it means that what was previously thought of by Euphorica as adequate force, is quite possibly now rather hopelessly inadequate force

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	28-06-2005 23:39									#38
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Why did I move Grog? Why?

I wish I could see the devastation...

	29-06-2005 00:16									#39
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same old, same old with you dear Aqua. Again you win a battle and you start being a hot shot. And next time an army will knock on your door, you will get mad again and think of silly arguments.

In the end, Euphorica is in it to celebrate only the victory of war, not that one of a battle, that one can be yours.

Enjoy your brew and congrats on the magnificent battle odds

	29-06-2005 04:41									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 No, it means that what was previously thought of by Euphorica as adequate force, is quite possibly now rather hopelessly inadequate force

We see that the Fates have favored DR once again. However, it warms my heart to recall the fickleness of Lady Luck, and those who depend on her generally find her deserting them at the worst possible time ...

We also rejoice at the note that you did not come out of this unscathed by a long shot, and your immortal force is at less than half strength, after taking on one of your opponents - and still leaving a force that must be reckoned with in its wake, in addition to our friends out in the wings... Perhaps you should save your cockiness while you are still dancing in the fire

	29-06-2005 04:58									#41
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows congrats on the magnificent battle odds

I wonder if you were thinking "how can I hide the magnitude of our disaster, I know! I'll allude that they manipulated the RNG.."

Having since spoken with McMeadows & Snoopy, they have confirmed that they did *not* intend to suggest any such thing, and I am hence apologising to McMeadows on the grounds that some people may have been fooled by my post into thinking he *had* said the above sentance in " " marks.

	29-06-2005 05:02									#42
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Perhaps you should save your cockiness while you are still dancing in the fire

LOL! you may be right.. but then again, we've done it before, so I see no reason to suppose that we will not be able to score a hat trick against the Horde's pile.

Sorry, *stack* Dont want anything to do with any piles, no sir!

	29-06-2005 06:27									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Moonbars If you've got something to say McMeadows, come out and say it.

Editing other's quotes ... and Magnitude of disaster? You lost 33hp of 4 attack immortals, we lost around 50 hp of spearmen and swordsmen. I'll give you that we're not happy with this exchange, and the RNG definitely favored you (4 to 4) ... but this is not an unmitigated disaster, but rather something we planned for, and are happy to see the immortal pilestack well cut down.

	29-06-2005 06:50									#44
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 but this is not an unmitigated disaster, but rather something we planned for, and are happy to see the immortal pilestack well cut down.

You planned to have your most powerful strike force decimated? That is the most hilarious strategic move I've seen! No wonder your allies call you the Bards, for you certainly do not know how to fight

	29-06-2005 06:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows same old, same old with you dear Aqua. Again you win a battle and you start being a hot shot. And next time an army will knock on your door, you will get mad again and think of silly arguments. In the end, Euphorica is in it to celebrate only the victory of war, not that one of a battle, that one can be yours. Enjoy your brew and congrats on the magnificent battle odds

You continue to miss the point dear fellow. Throughout this conflict we have stated we desire peace, yet no-one was interested.....you all thought with your 3-on-1 dogpile you would beat us into submission. While you have been "hot-shotting" it around, hopping from mountain to mountain in a pointless and indecisive muddle, we have been quietly building sufficient forces to destroy your army wherever it stands, while maintaining security in the west. Then we invited you onto our mountain and you took the bait. We are not hot shots as you call it, but we have decisively won 2 battles against your forces.

I suggest instead of continuing to ignore the undeniable truth of your complete military failure so far in this game, you go back to your allies the Horde and Babylon and make sure they still support you

	29-06-2005 08:00									#46
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Aqua, we planned FOR it, not for it to happen. Only a poor leader fails to plan for possible negative outcomes.

	29-06-2005 08:08									#47
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Indeed. Having 2 allies cover up for your defeats is certainly a good plan

Or will we soon see another Euphorican stack of young boys come singing through the mountains towards their doom?

	29-06-2005 09:04									#48
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Euphorica sends only well-rounded men (no castrati allowed!) to fight the vicious Desolators. And of course we plan on allowing others to partake in the destruction of the Desolate Row ...

	29-06-2005 09:57									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Krill Anyone want to bet on what happens in the eastern theatre? Does Aqua attack, do a load of Persian troops hole up inside Invictus, or is Invictus razed again?

quote: Originally posted by Krill The BOH stack is not really big anough to do any real damage, and odds of swords against Vet spears forted with walls is not even 50%...

quote: Originally posted by Krill You should have brought more units then... Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Ah, the prophecies of Krill have come to pass

quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Can I bet?

How much was it that you bet?

	29-06-2005 10:21									#50
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Editing other's quotes ...

getting beaten fair and square... twice... and blaming it to luck or the other team cheating

	29-06-2005 11:52									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Moonbars getting beaten fair and square... twice... and blaming it to luck or the other team cheating

I don't believe I said either of these things ... you cannot deny that you HAVE had pretty darn good luck, but as I said, these things are to be expected - just don't rely on that luck continuing.

	29-06-2005 12:00									#52
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so, Babylon are attacking you too? I can't understand that - to go through all the continent to attack while having weak military force.

	29-06-2005 12:19									#53
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd so, Babylon are attacking you too? I can't understand that - to go through all the continent to attack while having weak military force.

Ah, having an arrogant and bullying ally strengthens the courage and resolve of even the weakest of armies......as long as that ally remains loyal and strong

	29-06-2005 15:14									#54
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1. Aqua and you are indeed howling all around again. I can understand that this propaganda is an effort to divide us as well as an effort to have BOH back off.

2. I congratulated you on your won battle. I did not imply it was an unfair win. I would have enjoyed a smile or two more on our side, but that's part of the game. No guts, no glory...

Like I said the war ain't over.

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	29-06-2005 15:44									#55
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows 2. I congratulated you on your won battle. I did not imply it was an unfair win. I would have enjoyed a smile or two more on our side, but that's part of the game. No guts, no glory... Like I said the war ain't over.

You made what I and I would hence asume others took as a vieled suggestion that we cheated by RNG manipulation.

So my post will stand.

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	29-06-2005 19:07									#56
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Moon, neither of us think you cheated, nor stated anything of the like. I've seen cheating, and I know what it looks like; furthermore, you and Aqua and the rest of DR are great and honest players, and I'd never think anything of the like, and neither would McMeadows.

You did have magnificent odds; at equal 4 vs 4, you did about 50 hps of damage while taking 33. That's pretty darn good, you have to admit, and is certainly going to be mentioned. But, any accusation of cheating that you see in it is entirely your paranoia.

Please don't sully this game by going there ... nor by making personal attacks. We have never attacked you personally, limiting our comments to role-playing; when you start to become personal, it's no longer a game, and that's no good for any of us.

	29-06-2005 19:54									#57
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For what it's worth, I have not read any accusations into what has been stated, apart from unfair criticism that we have no right to call on the righteous nature of the RNG gods

Let's put this to bed and move on with the real issue.....that the Euphoricans' biggest mistake was bringing out-of-tune and broken instruments on their offensive.....and for that matter, not enough of them

	29-06-2005 20:47									#58
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 You did have magnificent odds; at equal 4 vs 4, you did about 50 hps of damage while taking 33.

You are missing that some of the battle was conducted against already weakened units, but the point is moot. I read your team-mates post to be a vieled suggestion that we had cheated. You have both since posted that this was not what you meant at all.

quote: Please don't sully this game by going there ... nor by making personal attacks.

From my point of view, that is where McMeadows had taken us already. I am not aware of having made a personal attack, and have spoken to McMeadows on the matter. I have apologised for any harm caused, and have offered to modify the offending post if requested.

And just because your paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you.

	30-06-2005 05:42									#59
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Moonbars - not to be picky, but veiled is spelled 'ei', not 'ie'. This is one of those exceptions to "i before e except after c".

I guess we do have to bring education to the rest of the world.

	30-06-2005 06:13									#60
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I think he meant "vile"