25-06-2005 03:04									#1
	Borders in CivIV Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Those of you familiar with smac know that a factions borders were inviolate by another faction without starting a war. In CivIII a faction could start another city anywhere, even within a area that in smac would be considered a violation of another's factions borders. Does anyone know how borders will be treated in CivIV? I stopped playing CivIII because of this issue.

	25-06-2005 09:20									#2
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From what I hear so far borders will be better respected.

	25-06-2005 15:57									#3
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I would certainly like to see entry into someone's territory be tantamount to a declaration of war.

In the early days of an MP game it annoyed me that you had to attack any lone warrior encroacher, and that they benefited from war happiness because they were attacked..

	25-06-2005 22:05									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin I would certainly like to see entry into someone's territory be tantamount to a declaration of war

Already been done

	26-06-2005 02:44									#5
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Yeah, the number of times the AI just sends it's hordes of settlers over your borders regardless of treaty status...

	26-06-2005 07:35									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th Already been done

	26-06-2005 13:48									#7
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You mean its defiitely in Civ4, or that its been in other games?

	26-06-2005 17:05									#8
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Already implemented in cIV, as sources go.

	26-06-2005 23:52									#9
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

That's an excelent improvement.

When an AI twenty+tiles away has three settler unit pairs within my boundaries in Civ III, I find the temperation to declare war just to get six free slaves ilrestistable. [This happens a lot in the Middle Ages conquest playing the Germans]

	28-06-2005 01:12									#10
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This is going to have a serious effect on REX. Now, instead of filling out territory as fast as possible, it might be better in C4 to push towards foreign nations as fast as possible. In other words, you can leave an undeveloped hinterland, at least until the discovering of seafaring.

	28-06-2005 01:24									#11
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quote: Originally posted by TomVeil This is going to have a serious effect on REX. Now, instead of filling out territory as fast as possible, it might be better in C4 to push towards foreign nations as fast as possible. In other words, you can leave an undeveloped hinterland, at least until the discovering of seafaring.

Only to watch your overstretched empire being cut to pieces by more coherent neighbours.

	03-07-2005 20:08									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Only to watch your overstretched empire being cut to pieces by more coherent neighbours.

indeed