25-06-2005 23:13									#1
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Damn, I chipped a tooth a few days ago. I mustīve chewed something hard, because a filling just got loose and left a ragged edge on one of my molars... It doesnīt actually hurt, but food gets stuck in the crevice I know have in the tooth and I have to floss after every meal... I was overdue for a dentist appointment anyway, but now itīll cost ~300-400$ Strangely enough dentist appointments are not covered by the general health insurance in Sweden. So you have to pay the whole cost (up to a certain amount).

Damn again. I could use that money for something better...

	25-06-2005 23:16									#2
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Aren't dentists free in Sweden??? That's a surprise.

Damned expensive too!

* Hugs Belgian health-care *


PS: not free either but cheap

	25-06-2005 23:16									#3
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you have no idea how much i sympathize with your plight

	25-06-2005 23:20									#4
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alva, no unfortunately

paiktis, thanks!

	25-06-2005 23:20									#5
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It sucks. How come dentistry isn't paid for by the healthcare?

	25-06-2005 23:47									#6
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I donīt know. It never has been. Itīs free until youīre 19 after that you have to pay a shitload of cash for even a simple examination...

Whatīs it like in France?

	25-06-2005 23:48									#7
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Yeah, same here...used to be free but they soon put an end to that...same for free prescriptions (you pay a flat cost).

	25-06-2005 23:48									#8
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In Greece it depends on which social security fund you're in but most only give coverage to kids up to 16 years old.

	25-06-2005 23:57									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg Whatīs it like in France?

The state-funded healthcare does about nothing about it, but the non-profit insurance companies complement it. The generosity depends on the company.

	26-06-2005 00:00									#10
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Ok, thereīs nothing like that in Sweden...

	26-06-2005 05:10									#11
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I wonder how it is in finland... Last time I had mine examined was propably 5 years ago... And I think my wisdom teeth are starting to act up...

	26-06-2005 09:08									#12
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That's expensive

You can find dentists that will do fillings for ~$170 (HKD).

	26-06-2005 10:50									#13
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It varies by your insurance here. I get free exams and 80/20 for minor work and 50/50 for major work.

	26-06-2005 11:57									#14
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WTF ??????

I can get a tooth filled for between 300 Rs. to 400 Rs. ( which is about $ 6.976744186 to $ 9.302325581 ) . That's forty-three times cheaper than your system , whatever it is . And that's from a private doctor/dentist .


* Feels thankful for India's efficient free-market healthcare system *

	26-06-2005 12:31									#15
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We should probably out-source our dental care to India too.

	26-06-2005 12:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm I can get a tooth filled for between 300 Rs. to 400 Rs. ( which is about $ 6.976744186 to $ 9.302325581 ) . That's forty-three times cheaper than your system , whatever it is . And that's from a private doctor/dentist .

Quick question - what is the median income in India?

	26-06-2005 13:11									#17
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Looks like 80% of the country makes less than $2 a day. (Link to data included above)

	26-06-2005 13:15									#18
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@ Vince

The outsourcing thing is already happening , in some measure . "Health tourism" is when a hospital ties up with an agency in another country to get patients to India , get then treated , and get them back , and when the cost of doing a procedure in India plus transpost costs are less than the cost of the procedure in that country .

And more current figures would be appreciated .

	26-06-2005 13:26									#19
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The figures are 2003. I just used a search engine like anyone could. If there are any major differences in the past two years please let us know.

You've piqued my curiousity. How many patients come from the US, and in what fields do Indian doctors specialize to draw people from other countries?

	26-06-2005 14:16									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Looks like 80% of the country makes less than $2 a day. (Link to data included above)

Okay. So a filling job is 4 - 5 days worth of wages. Quite steep.

	26-06-2005 14:28									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Okay. So a filling job is 4 - 5 days worth of wages. Quite steep.

I'd actually imagine that it's a bit cheaper in Sweden.

	26-06-2005 14:35									#22
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I think its about a day or so for my kids.

	26-06-2005 16:12									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger That's expensive You can find dentists that will do fillings for ~$170 (HKD).

Well, if it was just the one chipped tooth it might cost me $200. But I have to do some drilling in 2-3 more teeth as well. The latter I had a budget for, not the former...

quote: I'd actually imagine that it's a bit cheaper in Sweden.

The average disposable income in Sweden in 2003 is ~$19 400 that would make the daily income $65. So a filling job like mine would actually be 5-6 days wages here.

And Iīm somewhat below average income as well...