01-07-2005 09:27									#31
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quote: Originally posted by alva Are you sure about that? Is that confirmed?

I don't know for sure, but it stands to reason if Wonders and land improvements will be appearing on the map itself. It's logical to presume that everything else will be as well.

	01-07-2005 18:52									#32
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Well, a throne room would be hard to spot on the main map... even when totally zoomed in.

	02-07-2005 03:46									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Alex Well, a throne room would be hard to spot on the main map... even when totally zoomed in.

I believe he was talking about the city view at the time.

	02-07-2005 03:54									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Willem I don't know for sure, but it stands to reason if Wonders and land improvements will be appearing on the map itself. It's logical to presume that everything else will be as well.

I meant about there being no city view screen.

	02-07-2005 04:08									#35
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While I always disliked it, I defintly now think it should stay and be a part (Which can be opted-out later).

A huge part of the immersion in the game, is not only the tactical map, but also if you really feel and believe you are a great leader.

I remember the feeling in Civ I, when I saw scientists coming to my palace to present me new advances. It was spectacular! I liked it in Civ II as well! (even though it was turned off quikly).

Civ III had very little moments where it made ME feel grand.

Civ IV should strive to keep it!

	02-07-2005 08:26									#36
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Sirotnikov, your avatar is REALLY great!

	03-07-2005 19:56									#37
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I cut my teeth on CIV2 on Playstation

awesome game

one thing I really enjoyed was the antics between my leaders

I also enjoyed the throne room

Id like to see a return to Elvis and also to a better throne room than we had in CIVIII

	03-07-2005 20:01									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Willem I don't. It's just a useless distraction. If it actually meant something in the game I can see keeping it, but it's just eyecandy.

Eyecandy is pretty.

	03-07-2005 20:09									#39
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I'm not a fan of elvis, but I do consider myself a fan of classic civ stuff. So I say yes to the 'Throne' room.

I'd rather have it and be able to turn it off if I want, than not have it at all.

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	03-07-2005 20:33									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker quote: Originally posted by Willem I don't. It's just a useless distraction. If it actually meant something in the game I can see keeping it, but it's just eyecandy. Eyecandy is pretty.

After all, games ARE useless distraction... Just for fun!

	03-07-2005 20:38									#41
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quote: Originally posted by ThaddeusAlexander I'm not a fan of elvis... Cheers

	03-07-2005 20:49									#42
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quote: Originally posted by ThaddeusAlexander I'm not a fan of elvis....

How could anyone NOT like Elvis?

	03-07-2005 20:55									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Eyecandy is pretty.

It's also distracting. I'd rather be able to stay focused on the game itself, not some fluff that doesn't even do anything.

	03-07-2005 22:06									#44
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That's why you can turn these things off...

	03-07-2005 23:08									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker That's why you can turn these things off...

here here

eye c your point and agree

	03-07-2005 23:49									#46
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My favorite version of Civ for the "eye candy" was the original game. I liked how you could see your soldiers marching through a just-conquered city. I also think the palace reward from Civ 1 was the best of the series. These little 'useless' features helped with the immersion into the game.

	04-07-2005 01:57									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon My favorite version of Civ for the "eye candy" was the original game. I liked how you could see your soldiers marching through a just-conquered city. I also think the palace reward from Civ 1 was the best of the series. These little 'useless' features helped with the immersion into the game.

i agree

	04-07-2005 03:11									#48
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Xorbon is right, Civ1's eye candy was the best

	04-07-2005 05:06									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon My favorite version of Civ for the "eye candy" was the original game. I liked how you could see your soldiers marching through a just-conquered city. I also think the palace reward from Civ 1 was the best of the series. These little 'useless' features helped with the immersion into the game.

I agree 100%. I think it's the extra stuff (wonder movies, advisors, etc) that got me so imersed in Civ2. The lack of decent replacements is one reason why I lose interest so quickly in my Civ3 games

	04-07-2005 05:21									#50
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Yeah, Civ3's was boring, but I never got tired of Civ2's throne room.

	04-07-2005 07:19									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Yeah, Civ3's was boring, but I never got tired of Civ2's throne room.

Actually, I thought the throne room was the worst of the three. Not because I like the idea of a palace more than a throne room, but because there was no choice as to the appearance of the throne room. The palaces in Civs 1 and 3 allowed the player to mix and match the architecture of the palace.

Having said that, Civ 2's eye candy was quite a bit better than Civ 3's. Civ 2's wonder movies and advisors kicked the butt of Civ 3's leaderheads and wonder/victory screens.

I especially don't like how some of the eye candy in Civ 3 (i.e. the palace) gets automatically turned off when you play a mod.

	04-07-2005 07:21									#52
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I too enjyed in previous versions where the advisors argued with each other

The military guy killed me as did the queer one...

	04-07-2005 13:09									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Yeah, Civ3's was boring, but I never got tired of Civ2's throne room.

I got bored of the throne room within a couple of games
Even Civ3's boring palace view was better than Civ2's throne room

	04-07-2005 21:50									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll I too enjyed in previous versions where the advisors argued with each other The military guy killed me as did the queer one...

It's incredible the attention to details in Civ2... It would have been easy to overlook the fact that players could check the advisors while they were changing governments, for instance. But they thought about this too, and loved the first time I checked my advisors while I was in anarchy...

	04-07-2005 21:57									#55
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i kinda liked the throne room. the idea was novel, and i hope there is something along the same lines in civ4

	04-07-2005 23:58									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Alex It's incredible the attention to details in Civ2... It would have been easy to overlook the fact that players could check the advisors while they were changing governments, for instance. But they thought about this too, and loved the first time I checked my advisors while I was in anarchy...

This kind of attention to detail is exactly what I'm hoping for in cIV. Even though I never followed their advice 100%, I really enjoyed being able to check with my advisors. I felt a bit more like I was ruling a civilization, rather than just clicking to move units around a giant rectangle

	05-07-2005 01:02									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Sabre2th This kind of attention to detail is exactly what I'm hoping for in cIV. Even though I never followed their advice 100%, I really enjoyed being able to check with my advisors. I felt a bit more like I was ruling a civilization, rather than just clicking to move units around a giant rectangle

thats what I felt as well

gave me some laughs when they were going at it



I am gonna find a screenie of this somewhere

for nostalgia at least

	05-07-2005 01:05									#58
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I'm not interested in playing Civ2 anymore, but I must admit that I have several times thought about installing the game just to see the advisors again

	05-07-2005 01:07									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio I'm not interested in playing Civ2 anymore, but I must admit that I have several times thought about installing the game just to see the advisors again

indeed, the graphics are not even able to hold mya ttention

but like you said the leaders only

GT

	05-07-2005 01:11									#60
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this may be slighy clearer

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