27-06-2005 21:47									#1
	Any word on Palace/Throne Room screen? Increase Your PM Length

Just wondering. If old, let me know.

	29-06-2005 10:25									#2
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No word in Civ 4.

	29-06-2005 14:29									#3
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I hope it's in.

	29-06-2005 14:33									#4
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IŽd say this is the least important part of the game. I wouldnŽt miss it...

	29-06-2005 15:28									#5
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While I don't care all that much, I don't see them dropping the concept. It's something that's been a part of Civ since the beginning. Especially if they're bringing back wonder movies, I don't think they'll toss out the Palace/Throne.

	29-06-2005 15:33									#6
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They could still add something that performs the same function.

	29-06-2005 17:15									#7
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Based on the fact that they want everything to be on one screen I wouldn't be suprised if they dropped this concept
But doesn't really matter since the throne room in Civ2 was boring and the palace view in Civ3 was boring AND annoying

	29-06-2005 17:37									#8
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But the city view was pretty neat. Though, it would have been neater had each city not had the same basic layout.

	29-06-2005 17:43									#9
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The city view in Civ1 was the best city view in any Civ game, even though the view was randomized each time you saw the city, but at least the cities didn't always look-a-like

	29-06-2005 17:46									#10
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While it is total pointless and even kinda dumb, I still miss the Throne Room.

	29-06-2005 17:57									#11
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It probably wouldn't be very difficult to mod in.

	29-06-2005 19:22									#12
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I like the throne room or the palace idea... It's all about giving the player a sense of reward. And in the next game the player can say to himself: "hey, let's see if I can finish decorating that room/palace this time".

	29-06-2005 19:52									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Alex I like the throne room or the palace idea... It's all about giving the player a sense of reward. And in the next game the player can say to himself: "hey, let's see if I can finish decorating that room/palace this time".

Indeed.

	29-06-2005 20:21									#14
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Citizen-built 'reward' statues in your capital would be nice!

	29-06-2005 20:30									#15
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Civ 2's throne room was the best IMO as was their advisors.

There will never be another game that has that classic feel to it.

"Give me more soldiers noble leader so that they may sheath their swords in the beating hearts of our enemies!"

That's just good stuff that can't be duplicated or imitated.

	29-06-2005 21:36									#16
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Only copied.

	29-06-2005 22:13									#17
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I hope it stays in. Its like a side quest in a RPG. Not needed, but fun.

It could be more useful if they want, like:
Like when you've the better developed castle or throne room the more impression you make when meeting foreign leaders. Nice and functional!

Still might be tricky to implement in multiplayer. Maybe the one with the best throne room/castle gets a extra chit on the negotiating table. IE something worth just as much as a X amount of gold in normal negotiating or so. Would give the builders something over warmongers in diplomatic dealings, since their population will probably be happier this make expansion possible more often.

Who knows, maybe we'll get a castle and a throne room this time around .

	29-06-2005 22:16									#18
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quote: Originally posted by CustodianV131 ...................... Who knows, maybe we'll get a castle and a throne room this time around .

	29-06-2005 22:27									#19
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They could make the throne room/palace "useable" in MP if the background graphics used when talking to another player is the palace the player has built. That way other players can see how each player has made it

Could be used for SP too, they just need to put in some random "palace generator" for the AI

	29-06-2005 23:06									#20
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Don't care about it, hope it's waaaaaay down low on the TODO list.

	30-06-2005 06:30									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I hope it's in.

I don't. It's just a useless distraction. If it actually meant something in the game I can see keeping it, but it's just eyecandy.

	30-06-2005 06:32									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. President But the city view was pretty neat. Though, it would have been neater had each city not had the same basic layout.

The city view will most definitely be gone. All your buildings and improvements will appear on the map itself so there's no need for it anymore.

	30-06-2005 14:22									#23
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Are you sure about that? Is that confirmed?

	30-06-2005 14:24									#24
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That could get a little crowded.

	30-06-2005 16:51									#25
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City view? The 'only' city view left is zooming in on them, and the city screen. AFAIK of course.

	30-06-2005 19:58									#26
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The palace and throne room concept is about as "worthless" as the wonder movies concept. It is the kind of thing that gives a game like Civ added character for a minimal amount of space and time. Really, was anyone that annoyed to tack another story onto their palace? It took two seconds and minimal thought.

<---- here's to keeping it in.

	30-06-2005 20:24									#27
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Unless it isn't triggered somehow during gameplay (like in civ1 when you occupied a city) I hope they leave the city view out... it was a useless dead-end screen in civ3.

Same with the throne room or Palace.. this should be some kind of reward and not a more or less random event (which it at least looked like). I didn't felt the palace annoying though in Civ3. It kind of grew with your empire.

	30-06-2005 21:07									#28
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I got annoyed by it in Civ3 because after many games you have seen what the different palaces could look like and didn't really care about it anymore, but it still kept asking if I wanted to add more to the palace
Also what kinda "annoyed" me about it was the randomness of it, it didn't always feel like you deserved to get it upgraded

But I would really like to see the palace to be "usefull" by using my above idea (when talking to other leaders, their background image is their palace), that would make it much more interesting

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quote: Originally posted by CustodianV131 I hope it stays in. Its like a side quest in a RPG. Not needed, but fun. It could be more useful if they want, like: Like when you've the better developed castle or throne room the more impression you make when meeting foreign leaders. Nice and functional! Still might be tricky to implement in multiplayer. Maybe the one with the best throne room/castle gets a extra chit on the negotiating table. IE something worth just as much as a X amount of gold in normal negotiating or so. Would give the builders something over warmongers in diplomatic dealings, since their population will probably be happier this make expansion possible more often. Who knows, maybe we'll get a castle and a throne room this time around .

quote: Originally posted by Adagio They could make the throne room/palace "useable" in MP if the background graphics used when talking to another player is the palace the player has built. That way other players can see how each player has made it Could be used for SP too, they just need to put in some random "palace generator" for the AI

Yes!

	01-07-2005 06:27									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Cookie Monster Civ 2's throne room was the best IMO as was their advisors.

While I agree with your comments on the Civ 2 advisors, there's no way the throne room was as good as the palaces in Civ 1 or 3. In Civ 2, the throne room always ended up looking the same, while, in Civs 1 and 3, you could make the palaces look different every time.

Having said that, I hope the feature is in the game, "useless" or not.