28-06-2005 09:06									#1
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With the fast passage of the turn to Morgan, I'll have a problem with being the turnplayer for this next turn.

Friday, July 1, is Canada Day, and I'll be away most of Thursday and almost all Friday, sans computer (at least, sans PC with smac/x on it)

If we get the turn within (as expected) 30 hours from now, I can participate in the discussions, but prolly shouldn't play any of the turn as then I'd just leave others to clear up my mess ( )

But I can certainly open the turn and have a recce around and see what's happening, as any competent Crypteia Oficer should be able to do.

	28-06-2005 11:03									#2
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I will be away starting Thursday, so...

	28-06-2005 12:55									#3
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I'll be away starting friday. Hopefully the turn will be rolling along before then.

	28-06-2005 13:48									#4
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So it's better be Maniac (or Death by the sword).

I could do it, of course but IMVHO the risks of Murphying would be too great...

	28-06-2005 14:43									#5
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Seems there won't be that many people at a turnchat...

	28-06-2005 15:59									#6
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Not a reason to cancel.

	28-06-2005 21:12									#7
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I could attend a turnchat on Thursday, I think. At least I would like to

	28-06-2005 22:10									#8
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All being well we should have the turn around noon GMT on Wednesday

Any chance of having the turnchat that evening (for the Europeans) which would be mid-day & after for us in North America?

	28-06-2005 23:30									#9
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Ok for me.
Will be home around 6:30 PM CET.

	28-06-2005 23:41									#10
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I leave Thursday morning GMT, so Wednesday should be fine. If no last-minute work happens, that is.

	29-06-2005 19:22									#11
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Turn's up

Looks like it'll be tight - he's bolstered his defenses at PA

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	29-06-2005 19:48									#12
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News: I'll still be in Gent today and probably tomorrow night, so I can't attend a turnchat (meaning I can't turnplay the invasion either). Sorry.

	29-06-2005 19:49									#13
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We need to get our Longstrider to UN HQ when we capture it, as that's one of the vulnerabilities if we can't get UN Commerce Committee this turn (he has a probe there)

But we can prolly use the damaged B-4 at Iaci to take out that lone rover defender there, and use a B-6 as planned to destroy the HQ defender.

We may end up having to spend some of our captured reserves to m/c Great Refuge if we want to get all five bases this same turn (or , cheaper, m/c that rover on the monolith that's blocking access directly from Planning Authority)

	29-06-2005 19:51									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac News: I'll still be in Gent today and probably tomorrow night, so I can't attend a turnchat (meaning I can't turnplay the invasion either). Sorry.

I can prolly do it if today, later (17:00 hours pacific time or thereabouts)

	29-06-2005 21:18									#15
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Would it make sense to upgrade all B4s to B6s for this invasion?

	29-06-2005 22:01									#16
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Nobody in the chatroom.
Will the invasion still be broadcasted live?

	30-06-2005 04:36									#17
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Hmm - 16:30 PST. I don't see any of our team on line.

I have a window of opportunity for the next few hours, then early tomorrow, then will be gone, essentially until late on Saturday.

I'll hang around and check from time to time who's available.

the Chat Room is at:

http://googlie2.tripod.com/thespart...ation/id14.html

I'll check in there and leave my PC on and look in from time to time

	30-06-2005 06:29									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Modo44 Would it make sense to upgrade all B4s to B6s for this invasion?

Well, we just need B-6's to deal with the 1-3-1 defenders - there are 5 in PA and 1 in HQ, and we have adequate B-6's for that.

EDIT: Actually, we are 1 short - but have enough amphirovers to take care of the fifth

B-4's can take care of the PK Unity Rovers.

Edit: The damaged B-4 from Iaci has enough firepower to take out the Unity Rover in Commerce Committee

I think that the troika of 1-3-1 defenders in Great Refuge need to be handled from the ground, maybe with our infantrymen, who'll get the 25% infantry-attacking-base bonus

So I don't think we need to upgrade, but we have the credits, so maybe we should play safe?

	30-06-2005 08:06									#19
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I'm online and waiting in the chat room. From what I can deduce, I don't see any serious difficulties. You can upgrade the aircraft if you want. It's never a bad thing to have more B-6's around.

	30-06-2005 10:04									#20
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Sorry, that was 1:36 AM here when you posted, Googlie.

I am leaving in less than an hour, so thumbs up, and kick their buts!

	30-06-2005 10:21									#21
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Yeah!
We won't be able to have that meeting during a working week I think.

Play it for the best, Googlie!

	30-06-2005 17:44									#22
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I e-mailed this to Drogue, and copied him and Method by PM:

quote: PM to the Moderators Drogue: This 2177 turn is prolly our most important since the game began - we are executing a 3-taskforce, 12 unit invasion of the Peacekeepers, supported by 9 aircraft, with the intention of capturing 6 bases of theirs in 1 turn. In the past, twice we have run 'live turns", whereby we have opened a chatroom and as units were moved and engaged, I posted the movement and result of combat etc (the original University invasion, and the Morgan PTS raid turn) These were hugely successful and satisfying from a player involvement perspective, and I'm sure contribute in no small measure towards the health of the Spartans as a ACDG experience. With this turn coming midweek, (and Friday, July 1 being a Canadian holiday followed immediately bu the July 4 US holiday), we can get the maximum number of Sparta team players participating in this if we can play it sometime Friday or Saturday (ideally midday for me and evening for the Europeans) Can you authorize an extension for this purpose? Our turn is due at 0230 PST on the 1st July - if that could be extended 36 hours until 1430 PST on July 2nd, that would allow enough time to plan a live turn and make it happen (I've PM'd this to you as well, and also to Method - I don't have his e-mail address) Googlie

	30-06-2005 17:49									#23
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LOL - this might be doomed to failure - got a return message re Drogue:

Mailbox disk quota exceeded

*begin rant*

This happens too often with PBEM players - why can't everyone manage their mailboxes (and inboxes, for PM's too)?

*end of rant*

	30-06-2005 19:10									#24
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So let's fix a time for a "live" invasion:

quote: reply from the Mods Hi Googlie, That would be fine. I think the main point of the timelimit is to make sure people don't get bored and keep enjoying the game. Clearly turnchats are a great way to get team involvement going, and while I wouldn't grant an extension for a normal turn, I can see the need for a turnchat for such a turn as this, so you have a 36 hour extension. Good luck! - Drogue

	30-06-2005 19:22									#25
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I can be available - and set it up - early Friday morning my time (say from 05:00 PST to 07:00- that'd be 13:00 to 15:00 London time) or else late Friday my time (say 22:00 to 24:00 Friday Pacific time - or later, I'd just stay up longer, which would be 06:00 to 08:00 London time, Saturday morning

Alternatively, same Saturday times as friday (ie 13:00 to 15:00 London time on Saturday.

With the extension, turn would be due around midnight Saturday, London time

Any preferences?

	30-06-2005 20:12									#26
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Saturday morning or saturday afternoon for me.

	30-06-2005 21:31									#27
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I will not be available for the entire weekend, including friday, so you guys will have to do without me. But best of luck!

	30-06-2005 23:28									#28
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Let's set it then for 0800 hours GMT on Saturday morning, July 2nd (that's Friday midnight for the Pacific West Coast)

(I'm available now 'cos my out-of-town junket got cancelled due to forecast bad weather)

I'll make a few of the non-invasion moves and post a .sav so that we don't spend too much time on inconsequentials on Saturday - things like completing the airforce trip, the Disco Volante, the mindworm rummaging, former and crawler orders, and builds, etc

	01-07-2005 00:34									#29
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I should be here at any time friday and saturday.

Edit: I'm in the chat room right now (14:43 GMT) if anyone wants to chat. I'll be there for about the next hour and a half.

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	01-07-2005 00:39									#30
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MY – 2177 Moves

Preliminary to the invasion

• Formation flew the three B-4’s to Iaci Base
  
• Moved the Coastguard Cutter SCC Minas Tirith into the bay of UN Great Refuge
  
• Moved all 3 transports into the bay at UN Planning Authority
  
• brought the reserve transport into the southern Arcadian Ocean
  
• ran the SCC Vlademorei down the seafungus between the Uni’s and Morgan’s continents, bit no IoD’s stirred
  
• rummaged up and down the Rio Rojo with the Unity rover there, but no mindworms
  
• moved the 2 Tomcats between MT and 2NS onto the river to build the remaining road link between the 2 bases
  
• re-assigned the Rio Grande worker from the 0/4/0 mine to the 3/1/0 farm tile and sent the new crawler to work the vacated mine. RG now a healthy 15 minerals production
  
• Mt Taygetus Hoplite rumbled thru the fungus, but disturbed nothing
  
• 2 Hoplites in the Northeastern Arcadian Fungus strolled around, but disturbed nothing there
  
• Took the Vladivostok nut crawler out of commission (base will grow to size 6 next turn, but has a rec commons and 2 cdf’s, so will be OK)
  
• rehomed the crawler to Sparta Command, and sent it to crawl 2 nuts. Next turn it can swap with a forest worker for an extra mineral to slowly let SC1 build those recycling tanks
  
• sent 3 of the 5 condensor-building Tomcats at GH northwest to build a condenser on the farm between SC1 and SC2 (remaining 2 had no mp’s left)
  
• sent new Tomcat from SC2 up thru the monolith to farm/condenser the crater rim tiles between SC2 and RG (but stalled on the monolith)
  
• had a recce around MT with the B-4 there to see if any Hive troops lurking in the fungus – none
  
• moved the Disco Volante north and encountered an Angels foil transport and inadvertently popped a pod while moving from it – got a former completion at Iaci Base (rats!!! – could have got a flying ginfreighter)
  
• took the Iaci workers off their forests onto 2 nut tiles for the slight growth boost (the stockpile energy only would have contributed just 3 credits, and the 2 surplus nuts seems a better deal
  
• sent the Coastguard Cutter SCC Iaci to protect the slow transport in the southern Arcadian Ocean
  
• moved the 2 Crypteia from Iaci Base into the coastal forest, ready for pick-up by the first empty transport
  
• relocated a Tegea Harbour worker from a 1/2/1 forest tile to the newly forested 3/2/1 nut tile
  
• relocated an AU worker from a 2/1/1 tile to a forested 1/2/1 tile - stalling growth. We should rush that crawler there (9 credits) as we need 3 to MM a Tree Farm or Research Hospital
  
• reassigned the 2 Tomcats that planted that forest 1 tile east to farm/mine that rolling/moist/roaded mesa tile (or could be farm/condenser if we wanted, but it’s a 2/2/0 tile with a farm/mine or a 4/1/0 tile with a farm/condenser – but both start with a farm, so that decision can be delayed)

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