28-06-2005 13:12									#1
	Ladder rankings.... Full PM-box? Change here!

There has been much debate, but little activity in determining who is the best Civilisation II player in the known universe. It strikes me that there is only one measure: Civilisation score.



In effect what I am proposing is a leader board.

Individual game parameters will be determined by individual players, whether is a dual or multi play format.

I think the only caveat should be that players can only play each other once in any calendar month, and a new game can not be started with the same set player(s) whilst another is in process.

Whilst the game format is open and to be decided by individual players, including difficultly levels, map settings, bribery, etc etc, the basic rules format is based around “Rah Rules’ as found in the Poly site. These rules, from my understanding, largely limit the inherent cheats in Civilisation (for example unlimited range for Bombers etc etc).

I envisage that saved games will be posted to validate scores and the ladder will be by cumulative scores.

If adopted, I would like to emphasise that those that play only one style or level would find it very difficult to get ongoing matches. They may be good players, but the truly great players should be able to win in any format and accept that as a way to get multiple games. I guess a good analogy is a tennis player that only wins because of a powerful serve is merely remembered as having a good serve, the truly great tennis players are those that are the ‘match technicians’ that use style to win the match regardless are remembered as the game greats.

	28-06-2005 23:30									#2
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quote: Originally posted by atomant There has been much debate, but little activity in determining who is the best Civilisation II player in the known universe. It strikes me that there is only one measure: Civilisation score.

What does the civscore have to do with being a good player

quote: Individual game parameters will be determined by individual players, whether is a dual or multi play format.

Agreed.

quote: I think the only caveat should be that players can only play each other once in any calendar month, and a new game can not be started with the same set player(s) whilst another is in process.

That would mean you wouldnt let someone play in a MP game becouse he already played a duel against one of the other players, seems a bit unfair.

quote: Whilst the game format is open and to be decided by individual players, including difficultly levels, map settings, bribery, etc etc, the basic rules format is based around “Rah Rules’ as found in the Poly site. These rules, from my understanding, largely limit the inherent cheats in Civilisation (for example unlimited range for Bombers etc etc).

Only the ones known by the people who made them, furthermore these rules are only played by a small fraction of online civplayers. I'd say let players decide for themselves.

quote: I envisage that saved games will be posted to validate scores and the ladder will be by cumulative scores.

Better a ranking system where you get more points for beating higher ranked players then lower ranked players. Civscore realy doesnt mean **** in MP.

quote: If adopted, I would like to emphasise that those that play only one style or level would find it very difficult to get ongoing matches. They may be good players, but the truly great players should be able to win in any format and accept that as a way to get multiple games. I guess a good analogy is a tennis player that only wins because of a powerful serve is merely remembered as having a good serve, the truly great tennis players are those that are the ‘match technicians’ that use style to win the match regardless are remembered as the game greats.

You would probably have small groups of people all playing the same style who only play each other, like it was on civfan.

The main problem is that people who play only 1x1x have no idea of how the game works in 2x2x, and the 2x2x crowd find 1x1x too boring to play.

	29-06-2005 02:26									#3
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I wish you guys would buy sports cars to make up for your small manhood instead of trying to say you are the best at a computer game.

	29-06-2005 05:26									#4
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You're about 6 years too late. Ladder play has come and gone. And I already settled who was the best. I beat the best players on 1x1x, 2x2x, and 2x1x.

	29-06-2005 11:37									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey I wish you guys would buy sports cars to make up for your small manhood instead of trying to say you are the best at a computer game.

So how do you propose we set up the new ladder for sportscar racing?

	29-06-2005 15:15									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey I wish you guys would buy sports cars to make up for your small manhood instead of trying to say you are the best at a computer game.

recommendations? should it be red?

	29-06-2005 23:34									#7
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Nah, better get a Lambo Diablo roadster then

	30-06-2005 22:51									#8
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don't listen to atawa, he likes to beat his chest as much as anyone

	01-07-2005 02:13									#9
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Much more fun beating someone elses, hurts less also

	01-07-2005 21:51									#10
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ahaha....fair enough.